2020 Women's Artistic Qualifications Subdivision 3 (Sunday, July 25, 2021) Teams: USA/NED/ MG 1/ MG 8 (Danusia, Iordache, AUS)

[alattejava]

I think it’s more of the Americans beating themselves-not meaning to take anything away from the Russians. They had a great night and their best performance.

 

[LMB]

Skinner actually beat McCallum on three events, since McCallum had such a low beam score! This was such a weird meet. Going in who would have thought that Biles, Lee, McCallum, and Skinner would have been the highest scoring team (excluding Jade)?

And for the record, I would have picked McCallum over Skinner too.

 

[Hatsumomo]

Agreed. And keep in mind that despite the favorable scoring Skinner always received from USAG judges, Marta kept her as an alternate after 2014 Worlds. That move seems to be justified here when Skinner gets an E-score in the 7s for a hit routine.

 

[crdubb17]

So because she balked the sissone+full turn she couldn’t re-use the sissone for CR with the split jump. Got it, thanks!

 

[MaryClare]

That’s the problem. Without realistic scoring, coaches cannot evaluate the inclusion of particular skills and combinations, ie if it’s regularly causing more execution deductions than it brings in bonus, then you have a rethink.
Not everyone can be Mostepanova, but that isn’t Skinner’s problem, the problem is her beam doesn’t play to her strengths and isn’t clever enough to hide her weaknesses

 

[Hatsumomo]

Though with the kind of person Lisa Spini is, would she have heeded or just allow Skinner and herself think Skinner is being unfairly scored…?

 

[ruby]

It’s a travesty that an elite gymnast at any level does not know enough of the rules in order to improvise a dance series on beam. That’s something as a coach, you drill into your gymnasts once they start competing at an optional level. There is no such thing as a 100 % reliable series so Plan B and C must be trained.

The US just did not have a very good competition. And they all were, finally, deducted for the numerous small errors on their huge skills.

 

[Hatsumomo]

You’d think after 2010 Worlds that drilling backup plans in your gymnast would be a thing.

 

[KristyJ]

Chuso getting an ovation from the entire stadium

 

[MRR]

At least Grace knew to improvise; she just happened to pick the wrong skills. Split jump-straddle would have sufficed for the EGR, and that shouldn’t have been a problem given she already does a Borden.

However, the need for a plan B only came up because plan A was so rickety. Her improvised split jump-sissonne should be her dance series, period, as the sissonne to wolf turn is problematic time and time again. One of her attempts at Nationals was lucky to be credited, and her turn on the final day of Trials nearly cost her a spot in the top 4.

 

[arabiandoublefront]

There’s already an article about Biles missing bars finals, but she hasn’t yet. It’s like they forgot Russia will be two-per-countried.

 

[LMB]

And now they’ve updated it with the ridiculous headline: Olympics-Biles Remains on Track for Six Golds at Tokyo Games

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/simone-biles-show-off-bumpy-start-tokyo-2021-07-25/

 

[Dex]

My god! A lot of journalists are idiots. i don’t blame the US team to not do press until after team finals…

 

[Doug1233]

She does two wolf turns!

Oh yeah fuck

Ok. That’s kinda annoying. The Skinner fans are going wild about Skinner beating Grace in the AA. They’ll never understand that a whole point on Grace’s score was basically a technicality.

 

[glamafonic]

How did they make it worse lol.

 

[GymnasticsDVM]

Exactly. I just had a big discussion with a Skinner stan over on Reddit for that exact reason. I don’t know if Skinner brings out more of the 4-year fans, or whatever have you – but the “points” they have been making elsewhere on the gymternet have been ridiculous. lol.

 

[Doug1233]

What’s worse is that they act like they’re not four year fans.

Here we are on here, burying ourselves over the switch ring positions in a 2018 random World Cup. But no. The MyKayla fan who only just started watching gymnastics when she started her a YouTube channel knows more than us on the code and deductions.

 

[JaJa]

My god! A lot of journalists are idiots. i don’t blame the US team to not do press until after team finals…

I agree completely. Most journalists are total hacks and yes, idiots.

But that doesn’t mean that the savvy way to deal with them is to yell “I’m done” at them and storm off after your team had a MUCH less than ideal showing in Qualifications and everyone is reeling from it.

 

[Gymfan93]

Tom could have easily done some PR spin there, blamed the lack of recent competition experience/covid affecting training etc, focused on having 2 athletes in every EF and that TF is a new slate etc etc.

 

[JoseM]

Simone with a not so good landing from BB ! Ugh!

Even Biles isnt perfect.

José M.