2020 Women's Artistic All Around Final (Thursday, July 29, 2021)

[dweiss324]

, I just didn’t know so many routines were intentionally designed with no musical timing in mind.

I don’t understand how musical timing and connection to the beat aren’t a part of the judging, in addition to artistry and expression and execution.

This Severino routine is my personal favorite in regards to actually being able to find the beat. Her “west side story, roller coaster, I’m a heiroglyphic spider” section after the third pass, right on beat, is my all time favorite

 

[arabiandoublefront]

For all the complaints about Adriana Pop, at least she seemed to know what she was doing in terms of relationship to the music. I always loved the routines she and Valeria Puya (spelling?) did for Andreea Raducan.

 

[ruby]

I don’t understand how musical timing and connection to the beat aren’t a part of the judging, in addition to artistry and expression and execution.

There is a deduction for it. .3 if parts of the exercise are not with the music. In reality 99 % of all routines should incur this deduction. I personally only take it in severe cases because otherwise it would be redundant. I wished lack of musicality would be .1 .3 .5 instead. That way you could really differentiate. BUT - i can guarantee you that many judges won’t notice.

 

[Crow]

I’m always surprised by the choice to set a routine to music that accelerates, like Maroney’s in 2011 or Raisman’s in 2011–12. I know it’s intended to build excitement, but no human gymnast is going to have the gas to keep up with the tempo. So as the music speeds up, the choreography–by design and necessity–slows down. The dance never matches the frenetic mood of the tune.

 

[MaryClare]

Listunova says that’s rubbish

 

[Hatsumomo]

Auburn already has billboards up. Amazing that she’ll be starting college in days right after getting home from winning at the Olympics.

 

[rlayt]

I can’t wait for college meets. There’s so many to look forward to.

 

[KristyJ]

I have a gymnast who is an incredible musician…in addition to being great with an Instrument she is a conductur. Dancing is a problem for her though. Doing the movements requires so much focus from her that she has the hardest time to hit a beat.

I’ve played instruments and sung in choirs since I was tiny, but to my dismay when I took on a more difficult Irish-dance themed program (skating) I found myself constantly skating over the music instead of to it. I literally had an optional ending that was three moves longer that I never made it to because I was that far behind by the end every time. For me it was a combo of complex steps and a little bit of a lack of fitness, but while I could keep my movements related to the music the counts never quite worked. Given this was about a decade ago it made watching Jason Brown’s 2014 Riverdance free skate even more impressive. What he does with his choreography is So Hard and worth three quads in my mind.

 

[onodian]

Yeah i loathe these routines where it just gets faster and faster and then on the apex of it all the music is going crazy and there’s the gymnast standing on a corner puffing for her life for 10 seconds before the last pass

 

[Seyonne]

I dislike floor so much. Easily my least favorite event to watch. Rarely pleasing, usually painful. That’s why I rather they give up the pretense all together. I know no one will agree with me, but I rather get rid of the music and make it like men’s floor. Further, I wouldn’t mind if men’s and women’s floor turned into straight tumbling. Maybe. I’d have to think about that.

 

[Doug1233]

The Gadirovas were great.

I also thought Mai really improved her overall presentation between 2019 and 2021.

 

[lovegymnasts]

That’s why I dislike men’s floor; no music. So boring to me.

 

[MRR]

I thought that was one of the more artistic and engaging floor finals in some time, with the caveat that the least artistic routine was the winner.

Not disputing Carey’s win, though. She put in a clinic on acro.

 

[onodian]

So I re-timed aly’s routine to make that bit fit the music. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

And now we can all live on and not be haunted by this anymore. (@RedBirdie @Doug1233 )

I mean it’s still not ideal but it’s as far as i could get while it still looking relatively real.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11OcV3wYS2IJAJz_66dl8xcszRdSaJjw7/view?usp=sharing

Plus I was already doing this so i did it for Bogi´s too

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KCEyuZMaCHl-ZO3ayoZQkogXGrpTKTqa/view?usp=sharing

 

[onodian]

sorry I never do this, I forgot to opt to allow anyone with the link to view…

 

[Doug1233]

Some of your best work

 

[dweiss324]

Omg, you’re a ***king magician. God himself couldn’t put Aly on beat and yet here we are

 

[Denn]

I thought that was one of the more artistic and engaging floor finals in some time, with the caveat that the least artistic routine was the winner.

It occurs to me that this is true about 2012 and perhaps 2016 also.

 

[Doug1233]

Imagine thinking it’s 0.3s on any non-stuck landing and not 0.3-0.5 on dance elements.

Right!!

Who is giving him this information?

 

[Doug1233]

Sacramone is another that was not a natural dancer but had some arm waves, shimmies, and poses that went with the beat.

I still don’t know how this got a 9.9. There were visible landing errors on the Double Arabian, the 2.5 Front Lay, and the Gogean. And surely there was some kind of body shape deduction on the tuck jump double. That was not even close to a tuck.

And one judge gave it a 9.95!