Potential upgrades ahead of Worlds

[makam]

And at winter cup we were all feeling a bit gloomy about the future of US gymnastics…

 

[GymBeauty]

What improvements has Blakely made? Her competitions so far this year have shown zero.

 

[Yarotska]

What improvements has Blakely made? Her competitions so far this year have shown zero.

She hasn’t competed since February, though. The reality is she doesn’t have to show a lot of improvement in terms of difficulty. Her beam is a guaranteed huge score if she doesn’t fall. She just needs to hit her routines and she’ll be in the mix. Of course she’s no lock.

Of course she’s shown us the LO Jaeger and Yurchenko 1/2 on LO 1/2 in training. The vault looked Cheng-able as long as she doesn’t overarch and brings her head up quickly.

 

[GymBeauty]

Her layout Jaeger is currently a useless upgrade, it’s .3 height deduction the way she’s doing it, so what’s the point over her normal Jaeger that just gets .1? The Lopez vault also doesn’t add anything to what she can bring to the team score.

Her beam is a guaranteed huge score if she doesn’t fall.

I don’t think this is true, she’s prone to all kinds of errors, especially in international competition, where she has always underperformed so far. Even domestically she’s only hit 1 routine in the past year that reached 14.0, she has a lot to prove still if she wants to be considered a reliable beam specialist.

 

[RichardL]

I don’t know if there is such a thing as a “reliable beam specialist” anymore, at least in terms of team construction. The current World beam champion wasn’t even used on the event in team finals. But it’s ridiculous to argue that Blakely isn’t guaranteed a huge score for a hit beam routine, regardless of how often she shows a hit beam routine.

 

[Yarotska]

The Lopez vault also doesn’t add anything to what she can bring to the team score.

That’s why I added the next part.

 

[GymBeauty]

it’s ridiculous to argue that Blakely isn’t guaranteed a huge score for a hit beam routine

That isn’t what I argued. I swear to god, the level of reading comprehension around here.

Yarotska said Blakely is guaranteed a huge score if she doesn’t fall. That simply isn’t true. She has not fallen many times and still isn’t scoring 14 with those routines.

 

[Yarotska]

Yarotska said Blakely is guaranteed a huge score if she doesn’t fall. That simply isn’t true. She has not fallen many times and still isn’t scoring 14 with those routines.

The international judges at worlds threw her a 13.7 with a huge break in QF, which was still one of the highest beam scores at worlds. And 13.3 in TF and EF with fall (~7.3 E score). I think you can piece together that the judges like her a lot and if she hits her routine, they will go with her. Who else on the US team do you see pulling those kind of scores beyond Simone and Suni?

 

[rlayt]

I swear to god, the level of reading comprehension around here.

The lack of comprehension on your part is why people think you’re a troll. You fail to realize that its not everyone but you that has a problem. It’s you.

 

[RichardL]

I’m done responding to posts by this person for this reason. Godspeed!

 

[GymBeauty]

The international judges at worlds threw her a 13.7 with a huge break in QF

Right…a routine where she didn’t fall…and didn’t get a “huge” score. A direct contradiction to what you wrote…the same as almost every other score Blakely has received where she didn’t fall.

Again, she’s only hit 14 once in the past year…during the 2nd day of world trials when her spot on the team was already assured. She has yet to show the ability to deliver a very high scoring routine under pressure. Talking about “she would get a big score if she didn’t fall or make a big mistake” is kind of useless when that person is always making a big mistake, don’t you think?

The lack of comprehension on your part

Stop gaslighting. Yarotska said something that is factually wrong and then Richard put words in my mouth. I am not the one with a problem here.

 

[Yarotska]

Right…a routine where she didn’t fall…and didn’t get a “huge” score. A direct contradiction to what you wrote…the same as almost every other score Blakely has received where she didn’t fall.

So by what barometer is 13.7 not a huge score? Who all is getting 13.7+ on beam regularly internationally? Matter of fact, who is getting 14’s? Please let me know because I only saw Ou Yushan go 14 at worlds, literally only two people outscored 13.733 at worlds last year. It doesn’t really make sense that you’re so against considering it a huge number when only two people in the world scored higher on the world championship stage.

 

[GymBeauty]

Jade Carey got 13.75 internationally last year! McClain got 14 internationally and 14.8 at Nationals, which even though it’s Nationals, that was her best routine and the score would have been huge at Worlds too. Leanne Wong is also someone who could hit the 14 mark here. Then when you add in Simone and Suni, the level of performance Blakely has shown so far does not make her stand out.

In terms of scoring potential, not even just needing to work on her consistency, Blakely is likely not top 3 in the country on Beam, and the top 3 Chinese girls are also better than her. The top international scores we saw last year will hopefully not be representative of where the apparatus scoring is at by the time Olympics comes, when people have had the time to acclimate to the code.

 

[esta]

It’s a lot of unnecessary negative energy, super mentally exhausting. Just use the ignore option.

 

[irichluck21]

So by what barometer is 13.7 not a huge score?

13.700 was a huge score at Worlds.

It was the second highest score in qualification.

In team finals Ou Yushan went 14.266, Giorgia Villa went 13.733, and Ondine Achampong equaled 13.700.

Ou Yushan got a 14.900 (ETA 13.900! oops) in all around finals, Shoko Miyata equaled 13.700 also in all around finals.

In beam finals, NO ONE scored above a 13.600.

Given the fall in team finals with a score of 13.266, Blakely was poised to have the highest beam score of the entire competition.

So you are 100% accurate that 13.700 was a huge score and Blakley was capable of huge scores on beam in Liverpool.
A 13.266 WITH a fall is insanely high and STILL would have qualified her to beam finals.

The judges clearly showed they were going to reward Blakely with a score in the low 14s for a completely hit set. Even with the fall she narrowly missed a beam medal.

That said, going 1 for 3 on beam at Worlds doesn’t bode well for someone specializing on beam, so while the scoring potential was there the consistency was not.
However, that is up for debate as the two times Blakely fell there was outside interference. Water dripping onto the beam in team finals and her ribbon fluke in beam finals.

 

[GymBeauty]

13.700 was a huge score at Worlds.

In team finals Ou Yushan went 14.266

How can 13.7 be a huge score when clearly people are able to score over half a point higher on the apparatus? Beam was a mess last year but everyone being messy doesn’t change the scoring ceiling.

And speaking more to the point of being worthwhile for a team, pulling a 13.7 as compared to a 13.4 on Beam isn’t a strong case for inclusion. Other people can add much better differentials to the team score on Vault or Bars.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Ou Yushan got a 14.900 in all around finals

I f*cking wish

 

[irichluck21]

I f*cking wish

Ooops was supposed to be 13.900

 

[gymfan]

A 13.7 is a decent score on beam. The median on beam in 2022 team final was less than 13, while the median on vault was 13.9. We can’t compare other competitions because (1) each competition has different criteria / strictness; (2) gymnasts tend to show mistakes due to higher pressure at Worlds, especially in TF.

Bars and vault by default are events that have higher scoring ceiling, but if the US team has one open spot, it would be likely bars / beam.

 

[rlayt]

Her beam is a guaranteed huge score if she doesn’t fall. She just needs to hit her routines and she’ll be in the mix

If it wasn’t for the ribbon and fall that routine would have been a great score. She would have medaled.