Gabby Douglas Comeback Thread (New goal: LA 2028)

[MaryClare]

It’s always 3 count, otherwise you end up with non comparable scores

 

[Doug1233]

Oooh, okay. I don’t know why I thought prelims was 5-5-4. 5-4-3 should be for TFs. I’ve had a consistent hatred for 3-up 3-count since its inception.

You’d have Suni Simone and Shilese do AA. Jade do VT FX and Gabby do UB BB.

 

[Yarotska]

In the “old days” it was 6-5-4 and then 6-3-3. I don’t see why they can’t do 5-5-3 in QF and designate one score beforehand as individual only like they do at Pac Rim or something, so specialists won’t be removed from the conversation but teams with more AAers can give them all the same opportunity.

 

[MaryClare]

I know. And quickly it became something the FIG wanted to drop

 

[Doug1233]

kinda like an exhibition but the score would count for making AA/EF

 

[MaryClare]

Which is why it will never happen. Because much like the 3 count format, it benefits the 2nd tier countries

 

[irichluck21]

Qualifications could be 5-5-4, no reason it can’t be. The only reason for not allowing all team gymnasts to do AA in qualifications is that some full teams would be at a disadvantage because then they would struggle to bring in specialist at the risk of low team scores for the team as they might have to go 5-4-4 on a event should the specialist not compete that event.

In 1992 it was 6-6-5. So 5-5-4 could work, or even 5-5-3. There is no benefit to 5-5-3 other than a team being able to drop their two lowest scores. This can be rectified by dropping the high and the low and counting the 3 middle scores.

As long as a “per country” is in effect, there is no harm to other countries.

 

[makam]

In 1992 it was 6-6-5. So 5-5-4 could work, or even 5-5-3. There is no benefit to 5-5-3 other than a team being able to drop their two lowest scores. This can be rectified by dropping the high and the low and counting the 3 middle scores.

Or pre-designating which 3 or 4 gymnasts are in the counting group. If gymnast 5 blows it out of the water, oh well, that is the gamble.

 

[MaryClare]

No, it does advantage the top countries. They have 5 chances to qualify to EFs instead of 4.

 

[irichluck21]

No, it does advantage the top countries. They have 5 chances to qualify to EFs instead of 4.

It is still 2 per country, which 9 out of 10 times the top countries get at least 1 two per, if not 2 two per for event finals.

Just in Tokyo alone
All Around 2 per’d
USA (3) Carey 9, Skinner 11, McCallum 13
RUS (3) Listunova 6, Akhaimova 28, Gerasimova 38 (2 per’d as alternate)
Others that had 2 per’d out of AA: China, France, Great Britain, Italy, Belgium,

VT
USA (1) Skinner 3

UB
RUS (2) Urasova 5, Listunova 6
CHN (1) Tang 13

BB
CHN (3) Yufei 5, Jin 10, Yushan 11

FX
RUS (2) Urasova 10, Akhaimova 11,
USA (2) Chiles 13, Skinner 14

Not to mention that in the past, countries had 6 chances to qualify to event finals and all around before new life and in 1992 and 1996. Then 5 chances to qualify in 2000, 2004, 2008 and 4 in 2012, 2016

It really won’t make a difference if a country has a 5th gymnast compete an event instead of 4. There is still a 2 per country and additionally, that gymnast is the 5th weakest in the line up anyway.

 

[MaryClare]

Not to mention that in the past, countries had 6 chances to qualify to event finals and all around before new life and in 1992 and 1996. Then 5 chances to qualify in 2000, 2004, 2008 and 4 in 2012, 2016

We both know that this is irrelevant to the modern FIG

 

[irichluck21]

We both know that this is irrelevant to the modern FIG

irrelevant or not, having a limitation of a limit of 2 per country is exactly that. A limitation.
It doesn’t matter if it is 3, 4, 5, 6 athletes competing an event. The only advantage it would bring would be in terms of team score, but then every team has the same option, so it isn’t much of an advantage unless you are a country without much depth.

Individual chances are still capped at 2 per country.

 

[QuietColours]

According to Aly Gabby is training for Paris, but it doesn’t sound like she’s actually talked to her: Aly Raisman Praises Gabby Douglas’ Return to 2024 Olympic Games – NBC4 Washington

But we know Kyla was at WOGA recently and saw Gabby there, so it’s not unreasonable that the former team mates would have talked and Aly might know a little more than just speculation

 

[makam]

Im still 100% invested in this. I’ll pin my hopes on Gabby before any upcoming junior!

 

[RedBirdie]

I’m just utterly confused why Aly Raisman is discussing this at all, and why its even a story.

 

[dweiss324]

Her quotes are barely legible too. Very cringe-worthy.

 

[Passion]

While Raisman won’t be competing as she retired from competitive gymnastics in 2020,

That’s a weird way of writing 2016.

 

[daniTS]

“While Raisman won’t be competing as she retired from competitive gymnastics in 2020, you can find her whipping up some tasty, healthy-baked goods.” <<< That whole sentence was a choice!

I know it’s wildly improbable, but the way I’d love Gabby, Simone, and Suni on the 2024 team…

 

[Doug1233]

Can you imagine Gabby (Olympic AA 2012), Simone (Olympic AA 2016), Suni (Olympic AA 2020), Jade (Olympic FX 2020, World VT 2022), Shilese (World AA silver 2022).

That would be really hard picking who doesn’t do each event in prelims. You’d literally have to bench an Olympic AA champion from an event in prelims.

 

[irichluck21]

That would be really hard picking who doesn’t do each event in prelims. You’d literally have to bench an Olympic AA champion from an event in prelims.

We’re so, so fortunate that our athletes are so strong that I don’t think it’s going to come down to tenths of a point in Paris.