Worlds Qualifier: 2022 Pan American Gymnastics Championships Rio de Janerio, BRA 7/11-7/15

[dweiss324]

Andrade is everything I want a gymnast to show (and I think I speak for a lot of us??) She is incredible.

It’s also really sweet to see Flavia mature from the young “darling of rio” and still doing really excellent gymnastics.

Thank you to everyone here for the commentary and links, it is so so so so helpful.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

I don’t know anyone who isn’t Team Andrade.

Do we have full results with D and E breakdowns anywhere? I want to nerd.

 

[QuietColours]

USAG results page

Edit: Looks like the team sheets don’t have the D/E breakdowns, but you can get them on the AA/EF ones

 

[irichluck21]

Edit: Looks like the team sheets don’t have the D/E breakdowns, but you can get them on the AA/EF ones

D/E breakdowns are here for the team:

https://sporttech.io/events/4cd7d0e6-26ba-4718-718e-aa06806b324f/ovs/stages/1/results

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Thanks both.

 

[Doug1233]

Is it just me or does Andrade look even better than she did in Tokyo?

Her ring positions on beam. Chefs kiss. Her bars is just glorious.

Bitch do a Double Pike (which is already in your damn beam routine), a Front Full, and the leaps in your beam routine, and you’re World AA Champion.

 

[onodian]

I would argue the bars were already at this level in Tokyo, tbh. Specially aa was fantastic sans the one late handstand

 

[Liuba]

The Pan Am Games qualifier will be next year, along with the 2023 world qualification = 2023 Pan Am championships in Chile, probably in march/April.

 

[irichluck21]

The Pan Am Games qualifier will be next year,

I thought this year was the PAG qualifier? It was always the year before the PAG. For example, 2018 PAGU was the qualifier for PAG.
When did this change?

I know that they had to add in a PAGU meet because they need a World qualifier.

 

[Doug1233]

D/E breakdowns are here for the team:

https://sporttech.io/events/4cd7d0e6-26ba-4718-718e-aa06806b324f/ovs/stages/1/results

Damn 8.633 E for Flavia’s beam!

 

[irichluck21]

Damn 8.633 E for Flavia’s beam!

Brazil definitely got some home town gifts here and there. But just my IMO.

Also, substituting Olivera for an “injured” Bezerra is highly sketchy and one of the reasons that I am not in favor of allowing alternates to compete in team finals.

Bezerra didn’t even do bars, which is the event that Olivera did in team finals.
Interestingly both Soares and Pedro fell off bars in qualifications.

If this rule change ends up staying in place 2025-2028 I hope they put a limitation on it. Like if the alternate is called in that alternate can only compete on event(s) that the injured athlete competed on.
So in this case Olivera could have only been used for vault and floor, since those are the events that Bezerra did in team qualifications.
Otherwise it opens it up to controversy because what is to stop a team from using someone only to qualify them to team finals, then substitute a one event specialist.
This defeats the purpose of the alternate in for injury. Might as well go back to teams of 6.

 

[Passion]

Like if the alternate is called in that alternate can only compete on event(s) that the injured athlete competed on.
So in this case Olivera could have only been used for vault and floor, since those are the events that Bezerra did in team qualifications.

That’s silly. That isn’t a requirement for anyone else on the team. Lineups can change between prelims and finals.

It doesn’t seem shady to me at all. What they did was within the rules. People on here have been suggesting USA strategically do this ever since this rule was added. Brazil used it to their advantage, every other team was free to do the same.

 

[Bob]

I see it as no worse than code whoring the squat spin. In fact I would be in favour of allowed them to use any part of their team in team finals inclucing alternates without any injuries occuring.

 

[irichluck21]

That’s silly. That isn’t a requirement for anyone else on the team. Lineups can change between prelims and finals.

Why would it be a requirement for anyone else on the team, they are the active team members, not the alternate.
It is definitely shady, someone is “injured” for team finals (I don’t believe the injury for a second) but then didn’t even do the events that the so called injured athlete did in qualifications.

You are wrong, the rule is not about swapping athletes, the rule is in place so that if a team has an injured member in the time period from TQ to TF that they can use their alternate. It is meant for injured athletes, not swapping out an event specialist.

 

[irichluck21]

In fact I would be in favour of allowed them to use any part of their team in team finals inclucing alternates without any injuries occuring.

I completely agree. But it is currently not written in the rules that way. As I stated, might as well just go back to 6 member teams for this purpose. Part of the rationale to go to 5 members was that it is 3 up 3 count in finals (and also wanting more individual spots). So why not just go back to 6 athletes at this point.
Interestingly enough, swapping for an alternate is possible for FIG related events but not possible for the Olympics.

Again, the FIG making the rules more complicated than they need to be.