US Nationals 2022 Senior Women Day 2

[rlayt]

There are haters? Other than Carlotta Ferlito?

She’s just the visible one. There are others.

 

[RedBirdie]

Chiles males me so nervous. We know her dance skills will get hammered. And her Olympic performance didn’t exactly scream “can handle the pressure.”

 

[Ginger]

So Leanne not on the national team?

https://usagym.org/pages/post.html?PostID=27793&fbclid=IwAR3UsmyTtK_-HRkYLNhjNfq35RrhTLaX0kjCbuwKFsTY5jhimeESPRaVm90

While the article states quote “Additional gymnasts may be added”, why not include her right away? She deserved it for her bars alone, plus she won US Classic.

 

[MaryClare]

Apparently they can’t add anyone to the national team right now, but they can following the next camp. So I’m guessing she’ll be invited

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Obviously it’s extremely unlikely that Alipio makes the team as a balance beam specialist, given that she didn’t even win the event at nationals (and she’s not usable on other events) but I thought it was interesting that going just based on scores, she’s on the team.

It is. I wouldn’t have factored her in at all. Perhaps she might end up as alternate if there are injuries.

 

[GymBeauty]

Chiles adds nothing to the team if Leanne Wong is healthy and if Konnor puts the D dismount into her Bars routine. Chiles was overscored on Floor and Bars at Nationals, especially Day 2 Bars. Those scores can not be trusted.

 

[MaryClare]

That’s very true and this is the problem with domestic over scoring. It’s going to be very difficult to justify not taking her based on those scores

 

[lovegymnasts]

This Board’s panel of strict judges placed her in a tie for first on day 2



Doug1233

cftmoonlight79

20h

How did the the boards podium look?

Day 2 Scores only:

1. Chiles 55.1
2. Konnor 55.1
3. Carey 54.6
4. DiCello 54.4
5. Shilese 54.2

 

[RedBirdie]

Apparently they can’t add anyone to the national team right now, but they can following the next camp. So I’m guessing she’ll be invited

That doesn’t makes sense, considering they took 9, instead of 8, juniors.

 

[irichluck21]

That doesn’t makes sense, considering they took 9, instead of 8, juniors.

Senior criteria was top 8 all around with option to add later.
Junior criteria was top 9 all around with option to add later.

There is a camp at the beginning of September so gymnasts can be added then.

 

[tsarinajen]

I tried to get through the broadcast but the revisionist history attempt by Tim made me shut off the tv. It was just appalling.

With that said, it looks like the World team will likely work itself out. As Kayla seems more inclined to move on… I’d take Leanne if she’s healthy. Leanne is more likely to hang around for Paris, so give her the team medal and continue to motivate her.

And we’ll have to see with what pen that dance elements will be judged with — the Olympic pen or the World Championship pen. Realistically with Russia being banned and Italy knocked out, it shouldn’t matter what team they field, the US should win. There shouldn’t be a ton of pressure on the team, but it’ll be a good test to see how they compete. The reliance on Simone in the past I think impacted their competitiveness. They never learned to compete under pressure, and now they can reacquire that skill.

 

[RedBirdie]

Elite qualification chart says 8 for juniors. Possible things were amended but the chart never got updated.

 

[Doug1233]

This Board’s panel of strict judges

I wouldn’t call us strict at all!

 

[lovegymnasts]

You have called yourselves strict

 

[Doug1233]

I guess it’s all relative. Strict compared to “old school” domestic scores, sure. Strict compared to Olympic scores, no.

 

[tsarinajen]

More often than not, “strict” but usually within range at the big meets. So we’ll see how it goes at Worlds. Domestic meets are always ridiculous… the issue comes when some are judged more kindly and then there’s shock at big meets when the scores come in.

 

[makam]

Has anyone an idea of what China looks like? If they have their shit together, they can’t be counted out.

 

[GymBeauty]

Chiles on Bars day 2:

Toe full → .1 flex feet, .1 alignment, .3 angle
Pike tkatchev → .1 flex feet
Cast handstand → .1 adjustment
Maloney → .1 flex feet, .1 leg separation
Gienger → .1 height, .1 bent arm
Cast handstand → .1 adjustment
Giant 1/2 → .1 angle
Pike Jaeger → .1 bent knee, .1 flex feet
Cast handstand → .1 adjustment
Bail → .1 form
Toe-shoot → .1 height, .1 bent arm
Cast handstand → .1 adjustment
Dismount → .1 flex feet, .1 leg separation, .1 feet apart on landing

5.8 D, 7.7 E = 13.5 total. She got 14.1 at Nationals.

 

[KristyJ]

I’m in the 13.8-13.9 range on it, honestly. I feel like Chiles is getting a lot of negative attention, you’d think she was the new Mykayla, but she was quite solid all meet. Yes, she lost a quick half point on the toe full in her bars, and her splits are about 5% to 10% under over half the time, but it’s not like most of the national team is hitting all their splits. And the patience to save that toe full showed a mental focus that I think bodes well.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

They scored quite competitively at the Asian championships. I suspect the key question is whether they’re going to use their best team this time or whether it’ll be more injured athletes sent because of politics.