Simone Biles comeback: latest on US Classic Roster

[QuietColours]

I read that as “People may still get injured or pull out, so buyer beware on tickets–can’t sue us for refunds if they don’t show up”

 

[irichluck21]

Gymcastic somehow forgot to mention Dominque Dawes is a three time Olympian, when discussing Biles potentially being a three time Olympian.

OOF.

 

[irichluck21]

I read that as “People may still get injured or pull out, so buyer beware on tickets–can’t sue us for refunds if they don’t show up”

Same here.
Jade, Suni, Simone are all featured and USAG heavily pumped this up in the headline.

They did it to push tickets and it worked bc US Classic is sold out.

Led by a trio of Olympic gold medalists, current athlete registrations for the 2023 U.S. Classic are loaded with Olympians, World Championships team members and international medalists.

any or all three of them could withdraw, as the event is a month away, so basically that comment is covering USAG by stating that they are registered to compete but doesn’t mean they will actually compete.

 

[cats]

What’s the point of having a registration if it doesn’t bar unqualified athletes?

 

[irichluck21]

Especially since some of them aren’t yet qualified to compete.

They do not need to “qualify” it literally says “petitioning to compete”.

All Suni and Simone needs to do is say “Can I compete at US Classic” and they will be there.

That’s a no brainer.

 

[Passion]

What’s the point of having a registration if it doesn’t bar unqualified athletes?

American Classic and a National Team camp are both the second week of July. That’s the last opportunity to post a qualifying score. Not sure why registration couldn’t close after that, but there’s probably some logistics/administration reason.

 

[irichluck21]

What’s the point of having a registration if it doesn’t bar unqualified athletes?

The registration deadline closed before the final opportunity to qualify commenced.
There is a July camp that can be used to qualify to US Classic.

 

[Passion]

They do not need to “qualify” it literally says “petitioning to compete”.

All Suni and Simone needs to do is say “Can I compete at US Classic” and they will be there.

That’s a no brainer.

The petitioning criteria says just ask and you can compete? How convenient. Weird that they bother having qualifying scores and all that, if everyone is equally free to just say “can I compete?” and they’re in. I wonder if the athletes who didn’t make the score know that.

 

[irichluck21]

Not sure why registration couldn’t close after that, but there’s probably some logistics/administration reason.

They need the registration because the US Classic now has men in it, and in the past few years, the senior athletes competing was in a large amount that they could not fit all senior WAG into one session.
They need numbers in order to determine how many sessions will need to be scheduled, especially in correspondence with the men’s competition, in which there is a huge senior delegation currently registered.

There are 32 senior women…they could do groups of 8 with a warm up in between the first half and half, but my guess is that some of the seniors will compete with the juniors as they have previously done, since there are only 19 juniors.

 

[irichluck21]

The petitioning criteria says just ask and you can compete?

I was being silly about that, there is a petition critiera.

But do you really think USAG is going to tell Suni or Simone… “No you can’t compete at US Classic because you haven’t actually qualified for it.” That’s just ridiculous thinking if so. NO WAY would USAG turn either of them down.

Suni technically has a medical concern documented so she could easily petition due to that.

But additionally, USAG can turn around to other athletes and say Suni and Simone are Olympic all around champs and have already proven that they are able to perform and compete at the level necessary to qualify to US Classic.

It is not like they doing their first ever elite season.

Either way, Suni and Simone can petition, they don’t need a qualifying score. I am sure the petitions will go through, and who would argue that they shouldn’t compete or that it is unfair.

 

[RedBirdie]

I believe (not 100% sure) that past world and Olympic team members have a free pass to Classics.

Simone’s comeback just got a segment on my local news in North Carolina.

 

[irichluck21]

This is the criteria.

B. Winter Cup/Classics Petitions:
1. All current or former Elite athletes are eligible to submit a petition to Winter Cup or a Classic Meet.
2. All athletes who attended a training camp or have competed in a National Qualifying competition are eligible
to petition.
3. Petitions should be sent, according to the above guidelines, to the Vice President of Women’s Program for
review by the Athlete Selection Committee

 

[Passion]

USAG can turn around to other athletes and say Suni and Simone are Olympic all around champs and have already proven that they are able to perform and compete at the level necessary to qualify to US Classic.

If USAG wanted to do this, then that needed to be written into the qualification procedures. They could easily write that all previous Olympians (or Olympic champions or medalists) are qualified, but didn’t.

I agree Suni could petition based on her injury. Chellsie just did that herself to get into the 2021 Classic.

 

[irichluck21]

I believe (not 100% sure) that past world and Olympic team members have a free pass to Classics.

Not a free pass, but they are all eligible to petition directly to Winter Cup, American Classic, or US Classic.

 

[irichluck21]

If USAG wanted to do this, then that needed to be written into the qualification procedures.

It is.

The Athlete Selection Committee will make all decisions regarding petitions for Classics/Championships.
a. Decisions will be evaluated on an individual basis.
b. The submission of a petition is not a guarantee of acceptance.
c. The committee will consider the following areas when evaluating the petition:
1) Results from recent international and national competitions.
2) D (Difficulty) and E (Execution) Scores in comparison to the current Elite qualification chart. Note
that, per event, the three-event score is higher than a four-event score.
3) World Class presentation.
4) Readiness to compete.
5) Physical capability to fulfill training plan as listed in the Women’s Responsibility Manual.

Simone and Suni fulfill all of 2-5 and depending on “recent” and “national” are interpreted, potentially also 1.

“Decisions will be evaluated on an individual basis” is the key statement, it is not, this applies to all.

ETA:
By all rights, USAG can easily say that Simone and Suni have both earned the right to compete at Classic.
“Simone is a 32 time Olympic and World medalist and an Olympic All Around champion, and Suni is a 6 time World and Olympic medalist and an Olympic All Around champion.”

No one could ever argue that it was unfair of USAG to allow either of them to compete at US Classic.

 

[ucrgirl]

I am so curious what her goal is. Does she want to be the top AAer or is she planning on being an event specialist and team medalist. July is going to be a long month while we wait to find out.

 

[Laura722]

I read over on the Reddit sub that she mentioned training UB in her IG stories. I think that indicates she’s training the AA.

Simone tweeted about her comeback a couple of hours ago:

 

[Laura722]

Shilese Jones was added to the Classic roster today.

 

[Denn]

Oh so people are ADD being added on. Interesting!

 

[rlayt]

KJC is a national treasure.