FX EF INQUIRY (Jordan Chiles Stripped Of Bronze Medal/USAG launches appeal)

[tsarinajen]

People Magazine and USA Today have an article up.
Language used “might” and “may” lose her bronze.

 

[rlayt]

What judges? The ones that accepted their inquiry and gave them the bronze? They should have rejected their inquiry because it wasn't submitted on time! CAS is a different beast.

Judges as in all gymnastics judges. Judges in a generic sense. I would not say judges if I meant the CAS.

My sense is that judges aren’t supposed to be on your side and you as a competitor or coach better know the details of the technical regulation.

 

[MaryClare]

Use of past tense is crucial here- “we believed”.

They have accepted the ruling

 

[MaryClare]

People Magazine and USA Today have an article up.
Language used “might” and “may” lose her bronze.

She’s lost 3rd place. That cannot be undone. She won’t have to give up the actual medal. But the results have been revised and she is no longer an Olympic bronze medalist

 

[Doug1233]

If I was Jordan, i’d give the medal back (assuming USAG doesn’t appeal).

I wouldn’t be able to look at it in the same way, now.

She could even turn it into a “good sportsmanship” thing.

Paul keeping his gold didn’t exactly cover him in glory. I wonder how he looks at it.

 

[Passion]

I think we need to wait for an official statement from the FIG or IOC to be 1000% sure what exactly happens next.

 

[Seyonne]

Use of past tense is crucial here- “we believed”.

They have accepted the ruling

I thought the same with the past tense

 

[rlayt]

If I were Jordan I’d have a press conference and hand over the medal there. USAG should set that up and go heavy on “good sportsmanship language.

 

[Lisaelaine80]

That’s a thing?

Yes our men’s team is terrible.

 

[Doug1233]

Gymnastics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's floor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MaryClare]

I think we need to wait for an official statement from the FIG or IOC to be 1000% sure what exactly happens next.

The FIG has adjusted the score, therefore I believe there will be little involved from the IOC. Other than that the FIG has to order and pay for a new bronze medal from the IOC.

the ioc only gets involved if the FIG refused to accept CAS ruling

 

[Passion]

If I was Jordan, i’d give the medal back (assuming USAG doesn’t appeal).

I wouldn’t be able to look at it in the same way, now.

She could even turn it into a “good sportsmanship” thing.

Paul keeping his gold didn’t exactly cover him in glory. I wonder how he looks at it.

This is different from Paul Hamm's situation, The CAS ruled that Paul should remain ranked in 1st place. CAS rejected the South Korean appeal. FIG sending a letter asking him to give back the medal was just Grandi being Grandi, trying to sweep away the controversy before it reached CAS. The letter was sent in August, CAS ruled in October.

In this case the CAS has upheld the Romanian appeal and ruled that Ana Barbosu is ranked 3rd place.

 

[Seyonne]

Wikipedia has spoken

 

[makam]

If I was Jordan, i’d give the medal back (assuming USAG doesn’t appeal).

I wouldn’t be able to look at it in the same way, now.

She could even turn it into a “good sportsmanship” thing.

Oh, don't say things like that, people might call you crazy.

 

[Doug1233]

 

[MaryClare]

View attachment 11074

Ah, never change Gym Nerds

 

[onodian]

She could even turn it into a “good sportsmanship” thing.

Absolutely. This must hurt like shit, but it would honestly bring her a level of respect and notoriety that a bronze medal would not.

 

[MaryClare]

Agree, but how do you strip a medal when the athlete is not at fault of anything (Gogean notwithstanding )? If it was playing with mental health for Barbosu over a minute or two, what is it when an athlete has had a medal for days? I honestly don’t see a good way forward here.

Mental health isn’t a consideration here. Chiles has already been stripped of 3rd place. Whether she keeps the medal or not doesn’t matter, she’s no longer an Olympic bronze medalist

 

[Puffin]

FIG asked Paul Hamm to return his medal. He refused.View attachment 11072

But Hamn refused and Yang's appeal to CAS in October 2004 was rejected

https://jurisprudence.tas-cas.org/Shared%20Documents/704.pdf

 

[Passion]

Wikipedia is not the official rankings lol I could go in there right now and edit MyKayla Skinner in as the bronze medalist, that doesn't make it official.