FX EF INQUIRY (Jordan Chiles Stripped Of Bronze Medal/USAG launches appeal)

[JusticeMom]

I don't see a whole lot of difference between allowing a federation to contest if another federation's inquiry was done properly and if the inquiry was correct.

Their athlete also lost because an inquiry was inappropriately accepted--a clearly short skill was credited. Why do they get to appeal the actions of the coach but not the judges regarding another athlete? Both were harming them.

I do think the podium is correct now, but the damage done is huge. And it opens a really nasty door--there will now be someone from every federation timing every single inquiry by their competitors to see if it's even a second late, because then they can appeal on the technicality and get the medal redistributed. It opens a very nasty door.

Well it does say this which is why I'mk

https://www.gymnastics.sport/publicdir/rules/files/en_1.1%20-%20Technical%20Regulations%202024.pdf

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I'm confused about the highlighted part.
Allowing Romania to complain about Jordans inquiry but seem to contradict these rules? Maybe I'm missing something..

 

[Seyonne]

The US can appeal, correct? This may not be over. We may end up with a three way tie yet.

 

[Doug1233]

Well it does say this which is why I'mk

I'm confused about the highlighted part.
Allowing Romania to complain about Jordans inquiry but seem to contradict these rules? Maybe I'm missing something..

this was my earlier point

it seems they can complain about the FIGs decision to accept a late inquiry from another federation.

they’re not contesting another gymnasts score. they’re contesting the FIGs actions

 

[Laura722]

The US can appeal, correct? This may not be over. We may end up with a three way tie yet.

The FIG has to decide how to award the medals.

 

[rlayt]

I couldn’t find anything specific but this section in coaches’ responsibilities:

 

[heythere]

Ana Maria Barbosu, first reaction after the CAS ruled in her favor: "I don't even know what to say"

"Wow! I don't even know what to say. You got me so quickly. What I can say is that I thank from the bottom of my heart the coaches, the Federation for standing by me and for continuing this fight at the CAS level. I am very happy. Thank you to my parents, my friends and everyone close to me.

I did nothing else at this competition but to do my best and I can say that I can't wait to get my medal!", Ana Maria Bărbosu told Orange Sport.

Ana Maria Bărbosu, luată prin surprindere de verdictul TAS: „WOW! Atât pot să spun”

Ana Maria Bărbosu a avut câștig de cauză la Tribunalul de Arbitraj Sportiv (TAS). Instituția a publicat astăzi decizia în cazul contestației sportivei, iar aceasta a primit medalia de bronz. Sportiva din România a oferit prima reacție după acest succes.

www.gsp.ro

 

[Doug1233]

The US can appeal, correct? This may not be over. We may end up with a three way tie yet.

this whole thing is a total shitshow

 

[MaryClare]

Well it does say this which is why I'mk

I'm confused about the highlighted part.
Allowing Romania to complain about Jordans inquiry but seem to contradict these rules? Maybe I'm missing something..

You are missing something. They didn’t complain about the inquiry. Jordan’s performance is totally irrelevant here. They questioned the validity of the inquiry ie was it conducted within the rules. It wasn’t

 

[MaryClare]

The US can appeal, correct? This may not be over. We may end up with a three way tie yet.

No, they can’t appeal. They either got the inquiry in on time, or they didn’t.

Likewise with Voinea. She didn’t inquire her ND within the allowed time. She cannot do so retrospectively

 

[Doug1233]

talk about the redemption tour - jesus

 

[GymnaSTICKS]

If Barbosu and Chiles both get bronze, I worry that the Voinea camp will still be nasty to Jordan.

 

[rlayt]

The judges aren’t on your side. You and your coach better know and follow the rules to the letter.

 

[Doug1233]

If Barbosu and Chiles both get bronze, I worry that the Voinea camp will still be nasty to Jordan.

I can’t see how they can award two bronzes to two different scores

 

[JusticeMom]

You are missing something. They didn’t complain about the inquiry. Jordan’s performance is totally irrelevant here. They questioned the validity of the inquiry ie was it conducted within the rules. It wasn’t

I understand the distinction that you're making. But I don't think the language of the rule is as specific as your interpretation.

 

[Doug1233]

The judges aren’t on your side. You and your coach better know and follow the rules to the letter.

I find it unfair that the last gymnast to go has such a shorter window to file an inquiry

I guess it’s the flip side to the benefit of going last and seeing what score you need tj medal

 

[irichluck21]

I thought that the results were unchanged and Yang was never recognised as the true winner?

FIG asked Paul Hamm to return his medal. He refused.

 

[MaryClare]

If Barbosu and Chiles both get bronze, I worry that the Voinea camp will still be nasty to Jordan.

Well the Voinea camp is going to be nasty to Barbosu anyway.

They can’t award 2 bronze as Jordan’s score has been officially changed and altered to 5th place. She cannot be forced to return the medal though

 

[Laura722]

 

[heythere]

The judges aren’t on your side. You and your coach better know and follow the rules to the letter.

What judges? The ones that accepted their inquiry and gave them the bronze? They should have rejected their inquiry because it wasn't submitted on time! CAS is a different beast.

 

[rlayt]

CAS probably won’t accept a USAG appeal since it was firmly established that the inquiry wasn’t timely.