Suni Lee new UB combo (training)

[Doug1233]

Is that a Lucconi?

 

[tempest]

if you’re talking about Ban, it’s a full twisting luconi
Here’s a vid of her doing it

 

[Doug1233]

luconi

Yes this was the word I was looking for.

 

[MaryClare]

A full twisting Luconi is a Tankusheva?

 

[tempest]

A full twisting Luconi is a Tankusheva?

I think it is if it is laidout

 

[irichluck21]

Interesting about Ban because the full twisting Luconi was not in the CoP at the time of the Swiss Cup.
It was given a 9.8 SV at the meet.
The Khorkina II had a 9.9 SV.

Ban only got a 9.125 for this vault. So she went back to the regular Lucconi at Worlds with a 9.5 SV.
Funny thing is she actually scored better with the Lucconi than the full twisting version.

 

[RedBirdie]

The Code was and remains nonsensical.

 

[Concorde]

Ban vaulted a piked Luconi at 2003 Worlds which had a 9.7 SV.

Also, the Swiss Cup was held in November, which was after Worlds, so it was an upgrade for her. She continued to use this vault through Athens.

 

[onodian]

here’s our little ray of sunshine’s qual vt.

Such a shame she didn’t get to do that AA too.

 

[irichluck21]

Ban vaulted a piked Luconi at 2003 Worlds which had a 9.7 SV.

Ooops! Thanks, forgot the tucked was 9.5 and the pike was 9.7!

Still a full twisting Luconi should have been 9.9 like the Khorkina.
Insane adding a full twist in tuck position only upped it by .1 over the piked no twist.

 

[irichluck21]

She continued to use this vault through Athens.

Did Ban submit this vault to be named after her?
It was not in the CoP previously.

I don’t have the 2006 CoP handy to see if it ended up being added.

 

[onodian]

The Ban Vault sure sounds daring

 

[KristyJ]

The fact that she’s barely getting 3/4 twist onto the table, doing the repulsion phase with a clear twist in her shoulders, and completing it in the flight portion is admittedly making me not love those attempts.
Edit: re: Ban

 

[MaryClare]

Literally every luconi that quad

 

[RedBirdie]

The fact that she’s barely getting 3/4 twist onto the table, doing the repulsion phase with a clear twist in her shoulders, and completing it in the flight portion is admittedly making me not love those attempts.

That was an issue with everyone’s Lucconi-style vaults once the table was introduced. 2003 saw an epidemic of “Lucconi” vaults where the gymnasts barely completed more than half a twist onto the table. I suspect that ability to cheat was one of the reasons WTC has so harshly devalued these vaults over the years.

 

[Doug1233]

I suspect that ability to cheat was one of the reasons WTC has so harshly devalued these vaults over the years

Seems impossible not to cheat it and still have the power to do anything other than a simple back salto off.

Have we seen any true examples of that vault?

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Yeah, all the cool girls did it that way by Athens. Anything else would’ve been overachieving.

 

[MaryClare]

Does a video exist of Luconi competing it?

 

[RedBirdie]

Spencer has a gif of Lucconi doing her vault here: https://balancebeamsituation.com/round-off-full-on-back-tuck-luconi/

For what it’s worth, she looks to be doing a 3/4 on as well.

Not sure what beautiful Soviet girl this is, but another gif, this time of the full on tuck full off: https://balancebeamsituation.com/round-off-full-on-back-tuck-full/ And again, more like a 3/4 on.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

There’s this



I can’t actually think of anyone we’ve seen do a true full. Even Scherbo at peak didn’t. His Olympic gold medal winning attempt is an almost perfect three quarters.