Sanne Wever’s insane new skill

[ArnoldRimmer]

Definitely! And this is why I don’t like the idea of the Nabieva being downgraded, because when done properly, it’s incredibly difficult.

 

[Doug1233]

Well she did it at a World Cup, so I assume so, right?

 

[irichluck21]

Yes.
Osijek is a FIG event, so it is now officially the Derwael and given an official H value.

 

[ucrgirl]

This was very instructive for me to see what Nabieva and others have been saying about Derwael and Lee (and previously Eremina). Nabs’ stays open and kinda floats over the bar whilst the others have a more obvious snap from an open to closed body position. Put side by side it’s a very obvious difference to me now. I prefer Nabs’ way by far

It is hard for me to notice body shape in real time on that skill. Very instructive.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Ok I’ll bite–when did the WTC change the rules to nominally recognize eponymous elements at FIG World Cup events? I’m glad they did; it’s greater incentive to compete in the World Cup

 

[Rich]

With the upgrades, how will Sanne do in AA and EF at the olympics?

 

[Concorde]

February of 2017, which was also when the rule changed to allow a skill to be named after multiple gymnasts.

 

[irichluck21]

It is not just World Cup event, it is any FIG recognized event. This year it also included the Continentals, since those were official FIG sanctioned events and part of qualification to the Olympics. Not sure if continentals will still be eligible or if that will go away.

 

[irichluck21]

She is not doing the all around, just bars and beam. So they need a strong all arounder with strength on vault and floor. This is why Elze Geurts winning the all around at the first trials and also debuting a double twisting yurchenko was huge for her.
Netherlands will only put up 3 on vault and floor in Tokyo.

 

[Jack]

Netherlands will only put up 3 on vault and floor in Tokyo.

Very high on my wish list for Tokyo is that The Netherlands finishes ahead of Great Britain with this strategy.

 

[Doug1233]

This is absolutely right. I don’t want Gymnast X to compete a new skill at Euros, get injured, and then 12 months later Gymnast Y performs it at worlds and it’s forever called “Gymnast Y”.

 

[makam]

I agree but I don’t love that European Gymnast X and American Gymnast Y might both be able to do “cool new skill” but because Euros is before Pan Ams, it gets named after Gymnast X. Probably a really rare chance of that occurring (and really, Gymnast X might make her country’s world team while gymnast Y doesn’t so it would be moot anyway).

Maybe I am over thinking this (or they should hold naming until after worlds and just name it after everyone who did it that year. That would be fun to try to abbreviate!)

 

[Doug1233]

You have a point there.

 

[Livi]

Just in: Vincent Wevers, coach and father of Sanne and Lieke, wins lawsuit against the federation and is allowed to go to Tokyo as a coach.

 

[Sanzhirovka]

Here it is, Nina’s new skill:

https://www.gymsymbol.com/skills-and-drills/uneven-bars-pike-circles-2510801-derwael-h

 

[tempest]

Just in: Vincent Wevers, coach and father of Sanne and Lieke, wins lawsuit against the federation and is allowed to go to Tokyo as a coach.

What was the problem?

 

[Livi]

He was suspended in July, because of allegations from gymnasts in the past. After a short investigation he was allowed to coach again, but under partial supervision. After a few months he could coach again without the supervision I guess.

Then all of a sudden the federation decides to ban all present coaches from the Olympics and make the men’s head coach the women’s as well. Plus Aimee Boorman (out of nowhere) and another female coach, who was coaching the juniors I think. Vincent and the others were allowed to go to euros and after that also the Olympic trials, but not the Olympics.

Whatever the outcome of the investigation, this was a wild decision and the ones who got hurt by it the most were the present gymnasts. The ones who said Vincent changed a ton over the past 10 years, something he said as well. Vincent acknowledged that he did wrong things and is very sorry.

Now while I’m not the one to decide what is best, because just a ‘sorry’ won’t cover up all the damage that has been done. And I would understand it if there will be sanctions. But this was just not the right thing to do at this point in time.

 

[lovegymnasts]

https://netherlandsnewslive.com/wev...-to-go-to-tokyo-as-a-gymnastics-coach/179345/

Dutch gymnastics hit by abuse allegations – DW – 07/29/2020

A Dutch former gymnast has accused one of the country's top coaches of abusing her when she was a child. The Dutch gymnastics federation has suspended the elite women's program and said an investigation would be lauched.

www.dw.com

 

[Dex]

He is innocent until found guilty, the right decision by Dutch justice system.

 

[FrolovasDoubleLayout]

He is innocent until found guilty, the right decision by Dutch justice system.

To play the devil’s advocate - how do you then reconcile allowing for the accused to continue with their day to day normal existence and then have them commit again the offence for which they are initially accused?