Simone’s Yurchenko Double Pike

[onodian]

I guess what they mean is, if it were, say, a laid out release and she was not biles, but someone kind of chucking a tuck-openish thing, should it be the us classics judges who decide whether that is enough to get credit (I’m thinking for ex the moors, or the carey). There it makes sense you’d want somehow-sanctioned judges to make that decision

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Officially calling a triple back off uneven bars a Boginskaya because Sveta claims she trained it when she was like 12.

 

[Doug1233]

Officially calling a triple back off uneven bars a Boginskaya because Sveta claims she trained it when she was like 12.

Ha c’mon. I know you’re joking but some posters will agree with you lol.

 

[Doug1233]

But it’s still not the same as competing it. You can Chuck anything you like in podium training because it doesn’t matter. There are no stakes. If anything it would encourage dangerous behaviour

That’s a valid argument. But you have to weigh it against the status quo. Which is that the YDP will likely never be called “the Biles” and that doesn’t sit right with me, given the number of times she performed it and the fact that she literally performed it cleanly and safely on the podium in Tokyo and the FIG judges obviously credited it and valued it as a new element for the CoP.

 

[QuietColours]

I agree with this issue. I think it could be solved by a video taken from the judges’ angle during the competition, and submitted to the FIG . I do think the skill needs to be done during competition, not just podium training. However, I would not be opposed to each country being able to designate a competition as an official national championships, skills from which could be submitted with video to the FIG for naming purposes. You’d want it to be a predesignated competition that met certain standards and limit the number of them (or there would be nothing preventing a country from designating a practice session at a gym as an ‘internal friendly competition’), but it would make it more equitable in terms of ability to submit skills and get them named.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

I daresay she probably could’ve pulled it off when she was smaller! I believe her, despite her mostly rancid full-in dismount.

 

[MaryClare]

I really don’t understand fan obsession with this. There’s people here wayyy more bothered about it than Simone will be! If anything, probably the only one she regrets not doing is the weiler full to have the full set of apparatus.

 

[ucrgirl]

Agreed, but shouldn’t the fact that she landed it at Classics be enough?

If that was the standard, the “laid out” double double might be a Skinner instead of a Moors . . . depending on whose national competition was scheduled first.

(I have “laid out” in quote marks b/c I don’t remember Mykayla’s being truly laid out although Victoria’s may have been.)

 

[MRR]

Yes, the theory of it being that in an international meet, gymnasts from anywhere in the world have the same chance of debuting the skill. Obviously this is outrageous when referring to a Y2P, but not for less difficult or eventually more commonplace elements.

While this isn’t applicable to a Y2P (or any of Simone’s skills, really), a scenario could also arise where a U.S. or domestic panel credits a skill an FIG panel wouldn’t, and camera angles often aren’t taken from the vantage point of the D-panel.

Simone doesn’t owe anyone anything and has already accomplished everything, but selfishly I hope the Y2P is motivation to come back for Paris.

 

[tempest]

Simone doesn’t owe anyone anything and has already accomplished everything, but selfishly I hope the Y2P is motivation to come back for Paris.

She doesn’t even need to wait that long! She should go to a world cup! It is much easier to get a skill named after you now than in the olden days

 

[MaryClare]

I really don’t think Simone is particularly bothered by it!

 

[Doug1233]

I can’t see Simone ever doing the YDP onto hard ever again.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

why not?

 

[Doug1233]

I don’t think she will get her body back into the shape needed to safely perform it.

It’s hard to maintain that for more than a few months.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

I think if she wants to be in the shape to be able to compete the skill again, she’ll get there be it in Paris, LA, or a week from now.

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I think I read–on here? twitter?–that she’s over the twisties already

 

[MRR]

Vault is also not an endurance event, and Simone’s body has changed very little throughout her career. If she comes back as a specialist (as Laurent hinted she would) all the more reason to see if she can compete it.

 

[RAFIKI]

I think I read–on here? twitter?–that she’s over the twisties already

Yes People reported it on the 19th.

Simone Biles Details Recovery from 'Twisties' After Olympics and Excitement About Team USA Reunion Tour

"It was literally like second nature again," Simone Biles tells PEOPLE about practicing gymnastics again back home in America in preparation for her Gold Over America Tour

people.com

This Monday, Biles returned to the gym for the “first time” since the Olympics with her coach Laurent Landi. "He was like, ‘Okay well I need you to go on the tramp and do a full-in that’s all I care about,’ " Biles recalls, speaking about a full-twisting double back which is two flips backward. “I started doing a couple fulls and on the first one, it was literally like second nature again.”

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

There should be more things called after Boginskaya in general, and not just in gymnastics, so I’m all for this.

 

[dweiss324]

I don’t know where the line should be exactly in getting skills named, but it’s frustrating that the competition format often discourages attempting new skills during the competition. Falling on it in prelims means you screw up your EF chances. Falling on it in team sucks for your team. No one touch warm ups in EF discouraged new skills there too. It’s like there isn’t a good time to do it. Hopefully the reintroduction of one touch means we will see the next YDP or “Carey” or whatever big skills the next athlete brings, in EFs. That would make EFs way more exciting

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

I do think the rule that any FIG competition can count is a positive though, gives athletes the opportunity to get a skill named in an event that doesn’t matter.