Russia-Ukraine War: Effects on Gymn World

tempest · Feb 8, 2023

It looks like Russia sent juniors in 06
http://www.gymn-forum.net/Results/Misc/2000s/Women/2006_Jr_Pac_Alliance.html
But no seniors
http://www.gymn-forum.net/Results/Misc/2000s/Women/2006_Pac_Alliance.html
And unfortunately gymnforum doesn’t have any results for the 2008 version

RedBirdie · Feb 8, 2023

Fortunately, USAG does! Last time Russia attended was 2012, although it is possible I missed something while looking at results.

2008 Russia sent Alena Zmeu, Lyudmila Grebenkova, and Anna Myzdrikova for seniors, and Komova(!), Nailiya Mustafina, and Violetta Malikova as juniors. (I completely forgot Komova went; she finished 3rd behind Becca Bross and Sami Shapiro) Teams were mixed junior and senior, Russia finished 5th.

No team was sent in 2010, but they did have some individuals. Juniors Anna Rodionova and Maria Stepanova attended, as did Ksenia Afanasyeva.

2012 saw Russia finish 6th, again mixed juniors and senior teams. Seniors were Anastasiya Marchuk and Maria Stepanova, with Maria Kharenkova, Ekaterina Baturina, and Anastasia Belova for juniors.

irichluck21 · Feb 13, 2023

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/ukraines-zelenskiy-took-part-meeting-olympics-lithuania-says-2023-02-10/

Looks like pressure is being put on IOC to ban.
United States, Germany, and Australia leading the ban is a strong indicator that something will end up being done.

If they are going to ban, do it now, as Olympic qualifiers are being to be held.

MaryClare · Feb 13, 2023

I was like hmmm this looks genuinely significant. Then I got to the “Lithuanian sports minister” bit. I’ll wait until the USOC makes a statement.

J175 · Feb 14, 2023

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/russias-gymnastics-wrestling-federations-invited-asian-games-officials-2023-02-14/

Confirmation that Russia have been invited to take part in the Gymnastics competition at Asian Games. What we really want to know about though is Asian Championships.

In other sports news, the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Ireland and Czech Republic (so far) have announced a boycott of the World Boxing Championships, where Russia and Belarus will compete with flags and anthems. Boxing does have really serious governance issues as well which are also contributing to this.

ArnoldRimmer · Feb 15, 2023

According to Luba on twitter, Viner has said the Asian federation is awaiting an FIG response on whether Russia can compete and if there are any conditions.

I know the Asian Games isn’t a worlds qualifier, so would they be able to do both that and Euros in the hypothetical scenario of FIG letting them back in or is it an either/or? This assumes Euros are still held in Turkey rather than being moved potentially to somewhere that won’t let Russian athletes in, ie that the issue won’t be moot.

MaryClare · Feb 15, 2023

RG euros have already been relocated from Moscow to Baku

MaryClare · Feb 16, 2023

Today I was discussing dermatology with a friend, and wanted to show her photos of Nikita Nagornyy from 2016 and more recently (I don’t know who his dermatologist is- but wow). In my image search, I came across this photo from Rio and it made me extremely sad

Doug1233 · Feb 16, 2023

Why sad? Acne is very common.

Seyonne · Feb 16, 2023

How old is he there? My son had a bad case of acne when he was about 13-15 years old. He’s 17 now and it’s much, much better. He went from having his face almost fully covered to just the occasional spot here and there.

MaryClare · Feb 16, 2023

I’m not sad about acne. I’m sad that men the same age from our once friendly nations are having to kill each other.

MaryClare · Feb 16, 2023

18 I think. It cleared up very quickly though. By 2017, it was gone

JDB · Feb 16, 2023

Oleg Verniaiev has expressed in interviews and on social media about how betrayed he feels. That photo definitely puts things in perspective.

Hatsumomo · Feb 16, 2023

Kind of sucks to have your worst cystic acne outbreak not only on the world’s biggest stage but be forever immortalized on the Internet.

And yes, the photo does put things in perspective and leaves one to wonder if the two countries will find their way back to fraternity or do the feelings of betrayal and the trauma run too deep now and even fifty years after the invasion will Ukraine look at Russia with a suspicious eye.

MaryClare · Feb 16, 2023

Your intuition? Do you know him?

MaryClare · Feb 16, 2023

Hmmm. This is interesting article from the time. Both Verniaev and Nagornyy faced quite a bit of backlash about it, Oleg especially

These Ukrainian And Russian Athletes Are Pretty Chill With Each Other, Despite What Their Countries Think

Ignoring the haters pretty damn well.

www.buzzfeednews.com

ArnoldRimmer · Feb 17, 2023

I’m sad that it hasn’t come back.

lspatterson · Feb 23, 2023

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/russias-gymnastics-wrestling-federations-invited-asian-games-officials-2023-02-14/

OCA to invite Russia's gymnastics and wrestling federations invited to Asian Games - Asian Leisure Business

www.asianleisure.biz

Russia's gymnastics, wrestling federations invited to Asian Games - officials

Russia's gymnastics and wrestling federations said on Tuesday they had been invited to take part in this year's Asian Games, a move that could potentially pave the way for their athletes to qualify for next year's Paris Olympics. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) announced last month...

www.yahoo.com

Russia and Belarusian athletes at Asian Games: Asian athletes won’t lose medals, quotas says OCA acting president Randhir Singh

Earlier this week, the Olympic Council of Asia invited Russian and Belarusian athletes – who have been exiled from many international sports following the invasion of Ukraine – to compete at the Asian Games, which will be held in Hangzhou, China, from September 23 to October 8.

indianexpress.com

Leave the IOC to hand out medals only to Russians, Belarusians in Paris

The scandalous decision by the International Olympic Committee Executive Board to open the door to the participation of athletes from Russia and Belarus at next year's Olympic Games in Paris should lead to all other sports teams boycotting this competition, argues Orhan Dragaš.

www.euractiv.com

What do you all think about this?

onodian · Feb 24, 2023

My personal opinion, this is stupid. If this was a decision made by principle, the principle still stands. If you can’t uphold this principle indefinitely then you should not have banned in the first place. This only makes it be a pr move last year. You end up satisfying nobody.

Eta: just clarifying, i did not read the articles, I’m assuming that Russia and Belarus are being allowed to compete in an international competition and opening up the door to worlds and Olympics, if that isn’t the case, then never mind! #toolongdidnotread #atthegym