2022 China National Championships

[makam]

Someone needs to send some of the NCAA coaches over to China to teach them how to maximize their FTYs. The loose knees and lack of stretch bug me more than the pike down at the end. Like, I know vaulting isn’t everyone’s forte, but if you are going to be competing FTYs in elite, shouldn’t they be textbook?

I don’t mind easier vaults if they are done perfectly. Nastia’s Y1.5 from Beijing comes to mind.

 

[Concorde]

Ou Yushan - Floor Exercise, Qualifications

Acro:

1 x E (triple twist)
2 x D (2 1/2 twist, double tuck)

Total Acro DV - 1.3

Dance:

2 x E (Mitchell, Gomez)
1 x D (double turn with leg at horizontal)
2 x C (switch ring leap, switch leap 1/2)

Total Dance DV - 2.0

Total DV - 3.3

CV

2 1/2 twist + front pike (D + A direct acro), 0.1 CV

Total CV - 0.1

Dismount Bonus

double tuck (D) - 0.2

CR

Dance Passage - switch ring leap to switch leap 1/2
Salto with 360 LA turn - triple twist
Double Salto - double tuck
Salto Backward and Forward - 2 1/2 twist, front pike

Total D - 3.3 + 0.1 + 0.2 + 2.0 = 5.6

Elements or Connections Downgraded

Gomez
(Turn not fully completed, credit as triple turn, a C element)

Credited D - 3.1 + 0.1 + 0.2 + 2.0 = 5.4

Deductions

pause (before first tumbling pass) 0.1

triple twist
(slightly crossed legs / feet) 0.1 ^
(large step on landing, greater than shoulder width) 0.3

pause (before second tumbling pass) 0.1

front pike
(inexactness of pike position) 0.1 ^

Mitchell
(excessive preparation) 0.1 ^
(body shape → undefined arm position) 0.1
(lack of precision / turn appeared off balance ) 0.1 ^ (Note no deduction for overrotation of the turn because the exit is controlled and moves into the choreography)

pause (before third tumbling pass) 0.1

double tuck
(body posture on landing, chest low and forward) 0.1
(large step on landing, greater than shoulder width) 0.3

Gomez
(excessive preparation) 0.1
(lack of precision for underrotation) 0.1
(medium balance error → off axis during turn, and fell out of turn) 0.3

switch leap 1/2
(body shape) 0.1

double turn with leg at horizontal
(excessive preparation) 0.1
(body shape → torso not fully extended / piked down) 0.1

Artistry

• Insufficient involvement of body parts (0.1)
• Exercise as a series of disconnected elements and movements (0.1), assessed due to the pauses before the tumbling passes, and long setups for the dance elements
• Insufficient complexity or creativity of movements throughout exercise (0.1) ^
• Poor choreography in the corner / lack of variety (0.1)

Total Deductions - (2.3 - 2.7), 7.3 - 7.7 / Actual 7.950

^ Denotes borderline / discretion available

 

[Doug1233]

Exercise as a series of disconnected elements and movements (0.1), assessed due to the pauses before the tumbling passes, and long setups for the dance elements

This is a HUGE problem for China right now. They have not gotten the memo. And it’s a double whammy of 2 or 3 tenths for pauses before tumbles and spins, PLUS the artistry tenth. It’s a big whack that I don’t think the judges in China are taking.

 

[Passion]

I mean this is her routine unchanged from 2019. It’s not like it was crafted for this COP. She spent most of the last year recovering from surgeries.

China is doing the best with what they’ve got, nothing is operating under the usual circumstances because of Covid. Not everyone is training in the same places.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Some of them also got quarantined after an international competition too, I believe? That disruption won’t have helped.

 

[irichluck21]

Chinese Nationals and Worlds Team Chaos

This week, China held its national championship (rescheduled from May), which primarily served to upend everything we thought we knew and complicate the worlds team picture in several delectable wa…

balancebeamsituation.com

As always, great write up by Spencer with a few team scenarios.

 

[irichluck21]

This is the new FX champion in China.

 

[Sasha]

Was it a splatfest or is this indicative of the level of difficulty they’re doing?

 

[IratePanda]

They just suck.

 

[Doug1233]

It’s not like it was crafted for this COP.

Exactly.

 

[irichluck21]

Was it a splatfest or is this indicative of the level of difficulty they’re doing?

Vault and floor is very weak for China currently.

 

[Concorde]

Wei Xiaoyuan - Uneven Bars, All-Around

6 x E (piked stalder full, Komova II, van Leeuwen, ‘Lin’ pirouette, ‘Ling’ pirouette, full twisting double layout dismount)
2 x D (Pak salto, piked stalder 1/2)

Total DV - 3.8

CV

piked stalder full + Komova + Pak salto (E + E, one flight element) - 0.2, and (D + D, both with turn or flight) - 0.1

piked stalder 1/2 + ‘Lin’ pirouette + ‘Ling’ pirouette + piked Jaeger (D + D, both with turn or flight x 3) - 0.3

Total CV - 0.6

Dismount Bonus

full twisting double layout (E) - 0.2

CR

Flight from high bar to low bar - Pak salto
Flight element on same bar - piked Jaeger
Different Grips - Komova II, ‘Lin’ pirouette
Non-flight with 360 degree turn - piked stalder full

Total D - 3.8 + 0.6 + 0.2 + 2.0 = 6.6

Elements or Connections not Credited

None

Deductions

glide kip
(insufficient extension in kips and casts) 0.1

cast to handstand with legs straddled
(body posture / piked hips) 0.1

piked stalder full
(flexed feet) 0.1 ^
(body posture / balance error → arched body during turn) 0.1
(angle of completion → between 11 and 30 degrees of handstand) 0.1

Komova II
(flexed feet) 0.1 ^

van Leeuwen
(lack of precision / turn not fully completed upon regrasp) 0.1

cast to handstand with legs straddled
(body posture / piked hips) 0.1

piked stalder 1/2
(flexed feet) 0.1 ^

‘Lin’ pirouette
(bent knees on front giant swing) 0.1
(poor rhythm) 0.1 (assessed due to the slight pause / stutter before moving into the ‘Ling’ pirouette)

‘Ling’ pirouette
(bent knees on front giant swing) 0.1
(angle of completion → between 11 and 30 degrees of handstand) 0.1

piked Jaeger
(flexed feet) 0.1

cast to handstand 1/2
(angle of completion → between 31 and 45 degrees of handstand) 0.3

full twisting double layout
(failure to maintain stretched position) 0.3
(step on landing) 0.1

Total Deductions - (1.8 - 2.1) 7.9 - 8.2 / Actual 8.300

^ Denotes borderline / discretion available (I know there’s been a bit of a debate over whether judges actually are / should be deducting for flexed feet on the piked stalders.)

 

[Hatsumomo]

Raisman’s BHS were pretty janky.

Wei Xiaoyuan’s UB is kind of wonky. Her handstands lean to the side. Also after all this time, China still hasn’t resolved their dead hang issue.

 

[rlayt]

Is Chow still working with the Chinese athletes?

 

[KristyJ]

I don’t think so, I’ve seen recent-ish video where he was back in his US gym

 

[irichluck21]

Is Chow still working with the Chinese athletes?

I think that was the lead up to 2020 Olympics and extended into 2021.
Based on how China did in Tokyo, with just a gold and silver on beam, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was not asked to continue working with the team.

 

[RedBirdie]

Raisman’s BHS were pretty janky.

Wei Xiaoyuan’s UB is kind of wonky. Her handstands lean to the side. Also after all this time, China still hasn’t resolved their dead hang issue.

Everything Raisman did was pretty janky.

I noticed Wei’s handstands, too, particularly related to her pirouettes. I think its because of that closed shoulder angle.

 

[Passion]

Is Chow still working with the Chinese athletes?

His contract was only to work with them up to the Tokyo Games.

 

[makam]

Everything Raisman did was pretty janky.

Her DLO was sometimes lovely…from the side.

 

[Doug1233]

Oh 100%. I remember in Rio prelims I GASPED at Raisman’s DLO. The polishing up from Trials was apparent.