2021 worlds Day 1 EFs

[makam]

Yeah, this one. I really like @Concorde 's breakdowns, but this pak deduction is literally always taken–even for the best UB workers. What is the correct grasp position to not incur a deduction? Is is a particular arm angle or a whole body alignment issue? And, should it be changed because I can see taking a deduction on a really low/flat catch, but everyone seems to have at least some angle and gets the deduction.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

I definitely don’t deduct every Pak. The angle of completion-- arms and body line should be no greater than 30 degrees.

Here is Locklear killing it

Melnikova’s is great too

Andrade

Simone might barely evade deduction too

I think Tang’s is probably acceptable too

 

[Concorde]

Yeah, this one. I really like @Concorde 's breakdowns, but this pak deduction is literally always taken–even for the best UB workers. What is the correct grasp position to not incur a deduction? Is is a particular arm angle or a whole body alignment issue? And, should it be changed because I can see taking a deduction on a really low/flat catch, but everyone seems to have at least some angle and gets the deduction.

Thankfully, it’s going away in 2022!

On a side note, I believe angle of completion requirements on the Pak salto actually started with the 1997-2000 COP. To receive D credit, a gymnast had to show clear support, which in practice was satisfied by either catching within 30 degrees of handstand, or by working directly into another element.

 

[makam]

Well with Tang’s, which part of the body do you focus on: arms/legs or torso? Because they are at different angles. Or would she incur a different deduction non-straight body on catch?

(As an aside, I like the arched back paks, like Nastia’s, but I know others don’t like that version)

 

[Concorde]

Well with Tang’s, which part of the body do you focus on: arms/legs or torso? Because they are at different angles. Or would she incur a different deduction non-straight body on catch?

For handstand angles, you typically draw a straight line from the hands, through to the feet. If the legs were split (one leg is lower than the other), you would follow the lower leg.

 

[RedBirdie]

Ranking by e-scores.

Vault

E Rank	Name	E score 1	E score 2	E score Ave	Overall
1	Andrade	9.133	9.4	9.267	1
2	Melnikova	9.033	8.7	8.867	3
3	Bacskay	8.866	8.8	8.833	5
4	Netzer	8.833	8.8	8.817	6
5	D’Amato	8.733	8.833	8.783	2
6	Taman	8.733	8.733	8.733	4
7	Escalera	8.466	8.8	8.633	7
8	Geurts	8.966	7.533	8.250	8

Bars

E Rank	Name	E Score	Overall
1	Andrade	8.733	2
2	Luo	8.433	3
2	Melnikova	8.433	4
4	Kovacs	8.266	5
5	Wei	8.233	1
6	Iorio	8.2	6
7	Urazova	8.1	7
8	Martins	8.066	8

 

[Doug1233]

I would deduct Tangs.

If not angle of completion then body alignment.