Cairo World Cup 2023, April 27-30

[RAFIKI]

Did Chuso fall?

She bailed on her first vault and just did a messy tuck front. The commentator didn’t seem to know much about the sport and then confirmed it by saying she made that vault look routine. He had such admiration in his voice! During replays he even described her normal first vault but failed to point out that what she actually did wasn’t straight and lacked any twists I think she only did a straight tsuk for her second vault.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

She seems to be one of the few WAGs who’s being tactical about this, which is ironic considering she might not even turn up for worlds.

 

[RedBirdie]

Event finals day 2 is underway.

 

[Gymfan93]

You can watch here:

 

[gymfan]

Overall a very strong performance from Roberson. Hope she can replace or improve some skills that killed her score, like L-hop and straddle jump.

 

[Rich]

Shouldn’t Chellsie be telling her what to change

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Memmel should start by telling her that her mount is not getting DV and is getting -0.1 for being an unrecognized element. The free leg is supposed to be above horizontal throughout…I’m not seeing this in the CoP element box but I’m sure I read it somewhere in the last few months.

Did Villa get -0.1 for her routine being under 70 seconds? Great composition, but she should throw a battement in there somewhere

 

[irichluck21]

Shouldn’t Chellsie be telling her what to change

I’m sure that will come up.

 

[FrolovasDoubleLayout]

Memmel should start by telling her that her mount is not getting DV and is getting -0.1 for being an unrecognized element. The free leg is supposed to be above horizontal throughout…I’m not seeing this in the CoP element box but I’m sure I read it somewhere in the last few months.

Did Villa get -0.1 for her routine being under 70 seconds? Great composition, but she should throw a battement in there somewhere

Re: Roberson
The mount does have an ‘A’ DV. It was in the previous COP as 1,103 (and performed by one of the UKR gymnasts at the 2013 WC). The FIG WTC made a decision to that:

“All mounts without DV will be commonly recognised as “A”
except lifting one leg over to sit, squat on, simple jump to sit or
kneel or to land on one or two feet”

and placed this statement in the COP.

Re: Villa

Why would she incur a 0,10 deduction for an exercise being under 0:70? There are only rules for overtime.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Ah I’m seeing that in the code now, that mounts without DV are recognized as A, which is silly imo. The element is still 1.103 but I thought it would be a deduction if under horizontal. So I guess she’s in the clear.

Villa too. I was misremembering and thought the exercise had to be between 70 and 90 seconds.

 

[gymfan]

Villa’s beam execution is about one point above Roberson. Besides the problematic elements, she had more artistry deductions. Hope she can add some more sideway choreography and low beam choreography after the mount.

 

[gymfan]

Getting all requirements done within 70s makes her routine even more impressive. There are way more routines exceeding the time limit.

 

[RedBirdie]

Not sure who made the decision to change Roberson’s mount, but it should be applauded.

Her EF routine was back to the aerial-lso-lso series.

 

[Lisaelaine80]

What were the results?

 

[Doug1233]

D’Amato injury vault. https://twitter.com/itasupremacy/status/1652280704657510401?s=46&t=OHhWf4PQDwv8U4wA8rXudA

Is it bad? I can’t watch.

 

[Doug1233]

D Score
Moors
Chuso
L Hop 1/1 (very close to not being around)
Split 1/1 (clearly short)
Single L (clearly short)
Front 1/1 to Double Tuck 0.1
Double Pike 0.2

IHCDD|CCB 3 = 5.9 D Score FIG AGREED, 5.9

Being really kind:

E Score
Moors (leg separation 1, knee bend 1, insufficient stretch 1, body posture 1, step 3)
Chuso (leg separation 1, insufficient stretch 1, body posture 1)
L Hop 1/1 (body shape 1)
Split 1/1 (body shape 1, precision 1)
Single L (body shape 1, lack of balance 1, precision 1)
Pause 1
Front 1/1 (legs 1)
Double Tuck (feet 1, precision 1, steps x 2)
Double Pike (feet 1, step 3)
Artistry 0.3 (lack of complex choreo 1, upper extension 1, lower extension 1)

= 7.1 E Score FIG 7.8

Total = 13.0 FIG 13.7

I could have gone so much harder. The gogean attempt was really a borderline 3 for body shape. You could have taken another tenth for form on both the Chuso and the Moors. Could have also taken more on artistry (perhaps corners).

I genuinely don’t know how an FIG panel give this routine below an 8.1, and then a few weeks later fly to Egypt and give Roberson a 7.8.

 

[rlayt]

Not at all.

 

[J175]

WAG BB

1	ITA ITA	VILLA Giorgia	5.300	8.300	0.000	13.600
2	USA USA	ROBERSON Joscelyn	5.800	7.430	0.000	13.230
3	BEL BEL	PINXTEN Erika	5.400	7.630	0.000	13.030
4	NOR NOR	TRONRUD Maria	5.200	7.730	0.000	12.930
5	SLO SLO	TRTNIK Zala	5.000	7.230	0.000	12.230
6	NOR NOR	ROENBECK Marie	4.900	7.200	0.000	12.100
7	POL POL	PIHAN-KULESZA Marta	4.400	7.200	0.000	11.600
8	EGY EGY	ABDELSALAM Jana	4.800	6.570	0.000	11.370

FX

1	USA USA	ROBERSON Joscelyn	5.900	7.800	0.000	13.700
2	ITA ITA	D’AMATO Alice	5.400	8.100	0.000	13.500
3	INA INA	IRFANALUTHFI Rifda	4.800	7.830	0.000	12.630
4	KAZ KAZ	BAUYRZHANOVA Aida	4.700	7.830	0.000	12.530
5	PAN PAN	HERON Hillary	5.100	7.270	0.000	12.370
6	AUT AUT	MOERZ Charlize	5.100	7.230	0.000	12.330
7	AZE AZE	TEYMUROVA Nazanin	4.700	7.570	0.000	12.270
8	CZE CZE	TRNKOVA Lucie	4.500	7.470	0.000	11.970

MAG VT

1	ARM ARM	DAVTYAN Artur	15.070	15.270	15.170
2	UKR UKR	CHEPURNYI Nazar	14.770	14.830	14.800
3	CZE CZE	KALNY Ondrej	14.270	14.400	14.330
4	IRL IRL	CUNNINGHAM Dominick	14.500	13.800	14.150
5	USA USA	NELSON Kameron	14.500	13.630	14.070
6	TPE TPE	TSENG Wei-Sheng	14.200	13.400	13.800
7	CRO CRO	BENOVIC Aurel	13.130	14.230	13.680
8	EGY EGY	MOHAMED Omar	0.000	13.970	6.980

PB

1	UKR UKR	KOVTUN Illia	6.000	8.830	0.000	14.830
2	EGY EGY	AFIFY Mohamed	6.000	8.070	0.000	14.070
3	ITA ITA	MOZZATO Nicolo	5.600	8.430	0.000	14.030
4	ITA ITA	MACCHIATI Mario	5.900	8.100	0.000	14.000
5	NED NED	DE MUNCK Loran	5.600	8.330	0.000	13.930
6	NED NED	SCHMIDT Casimir	5.500	8.330	0.000	13.830
7	MEX MEX	NUNEZ Isaac	5.600	8.070	0.000	13.670
8	TUR TUR	BULUT Hasan	4.300	7.700	0.000	12.000

HB

1	UKR UKR	KOVTUN Illia	5.700	8.400	0.000	14.100
2	BEL BEL	GENTGES Maxime	5.500	8.266	0.000	13.766
3	NED NED	SCHMIDT Casimir	5.200	8.333	0.000	13.533
4	GER GER	HOERR Carlo	5.300	8.233	0.000	13.533
5	EGY EGY	ELMARAGHY Ahmed	5.700	7.466	0.000	13.166
6	TUR TUR	KILICER Mert Efe	5.100	7.300	0.000	12.400
7	MEX MEX	NUNEZ Isaac	4.700	7.400	0.000	12.100
8	SRB SRB	DEJANOVIC Ivan	4.800	7.300	0.000	12.100

 

[Doug1233]

Not at all.

I mean, I just watched it, and kinda wished I hadn’t. He knee collapses in laterally. That could easily be an ACL.

 

[irichluck21]

Positive results for Roberson, two golds and a silver. Huge confidence booster as well.