Yul Moldauer suspended

[Matilda23]

Some athletes might intentionally miss out-of-comp tests, if they think the test might detect something

 

[MaryClare]

Some athletes might intentionally miss out-of-comp tests, if they think the test might detect something

That’s what I mean. I cannot fathom how an experienced athlete can make a genuine error on more than one occasion?

 

[tempest]

I agree... something's fishy

 

[Denn]

I seriously disagree with most of you on this one.

A) He said that two of the times, he actually got tested. Isn't it reasonable that, if you are at a sanctioned competition and get and pass a test, that should count? There has to be a reasonable level of expectation here.

B) So that reduces it to just one sanction. 45 minutes away is NOT that far, and 15 is a ridiculous expectation. The difference between 15 minutes and 45 minutes could be as simple as bad traffic, or taking a really long dump and not seeing the message for half an hour. Who knows...

This is sports — not jail. The fact that people are being paid to stalk the athletes no matter where they are is ridiculous. But fine, accepting that, they need to give them more than 15 minutes. That's ridiculous levels of restriction on the lives of these people. We have to promote fair play, yes, but there has to be reasonable expectations on athletes and their lives.

 

[JaJa]

This is sports — not jail. The fact that people are being paid to stalk the athletes no matter where they are is ridiculous. But fine, accepting that, they need to give them more than 15 minutes. That's ridiculous levels of restriction on the lives of these people. We have to promote fair play, yes, but there has to be reasonable expectations on athletes and their lives.

Agree completely

 

[barbara_dewey]

I seriously disagree with most of you on this one.

A) He said that two of the times, he actually got tested. Isn't it reasonable that, if you are at a sanctioned competition and get and pass a test, that should count? There has to be a reasonable level of expectation here.

B) So that reduces it to just one sanction. 45 minutes away is NOT that far, and 15 is a ridiculous expectation. The difference between 15 minutes and 45 minutes could be as simple as bad traffic, or taking a really long dump and not seeing the message for half an hour. Who knows...

This is sports — not jail. The fact that people are being paid to stalk the athletes no matter where they are is ridiculous. But fine, accepting that, they need to give them more than 15 minutes. That's ridiculous levels of restriction on the lives of these people. We have to promote fair play, yes, but there has to be reasonable expectations on athletes and their lives.

Great points.

 

[Caledi]

I seriously disagree with most of you on this one.

A) He said that two of the times, he actually got tested. Isn't it reasonable that, if you are at a sanctioned competition and get and pass a test, that should count? There has to be a reasonable level of expectation here.

But why let it happen twice? If you know that in-competition testing doesn't count (and he absolutely would have been notified after the first missed test), then why not be more careful the next time? (Not to mention that the other athletes don't seem to have had this problem.)

 

[MaryClare]

I seriously disagree with most of you on this one.

A) He said that two of the times, he actually got tested. Isn't it reasonable that, if you are at a sanctioned competition and get and pass a test, that should count? There has to be a reasonable level of expectation here.

B) So that reduces it to just one sanction. 45 minutes away is NOT that far, and 15 is a ridiculous expectation. The difference between 15 minutes and 45 minutes could be as simple as bad traffic, or taking a really long dump and not seeing the message for half an hour. Who knows...

This is sports — not jail. The fact that people are being paid to stalk the athletes no matter where they are is ridiculous. But fine, accepting that, they need to give them more than 15 minutes. That's ridiculous levels of restriction on the lives of these people. We have to promote fair play, yes, but there has to be reasonable expectations on athletes and their lives.

I don’t disagree that the testing regime is unrealistic or heavy handed at times. But it is what it is and someone who has had to comply with it for several years now is extremely unlikely to make a genuine mistake on more than 1 occasion

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

What could have happened is one person on his team thinking the other guy took care of stuff, when no one had.

The probability that Moldauer is doping to cheat is close to zero. I would say zero.

The sports in which people commonly use PEDs are sports in which athletes are caught cheating all the time, despite going to great efforts to avoid getting caught. To my knowledge, only one gymnast has ever been banned for a true performance-enhancing medication (an obscure Indian gymnast tested positive for an anabolic steroid).

Where there is no smoke, there is no fire.

As Denn, pointed out, he tested negative at the two competitions where he got dinged for not following the whereabouts rules. The third one was after he failed to make the Olympics and his mind was probably elsewhere. That one very well could have happened to me.

Oleg Verniaiev was banned for 2 years but returned, and made the Olympics. It was for meldonium (which is probably useless, but the rules are the rules).

These rules are petty, but blame Lance Armstrong and the legion of other cheaters (mostly in athletics and weightlifting).

 

[MaryClare]

What could have happened is one person on his team thinking the other guy took care of stuff, when no one had.

The probability that Moldauer is doping to cheat is close to zero. I would say zero.

The sports in which people commonly use PEDs are sports in which athletes are caught cheating all the time, despite going to great efforts to avoid getting caught. To my knowledge, only one gymnast has ever been banned for a true performance-enhancing medication (an obscure Indian gymnast tested positive for an anabolic steroid).

Where there is no smoke, there is no fire.

As Denn, pointed out, he tested negative at the two competitions where he got dinged for not following the whereabouts rules. The third one was after he failed to make the Olympics and his mind was probably elsewhere. That one very well could have happened to me.

Oleg Verniaiev was banned for 2 years but returned, and made the Olympics. It was for meldonium (which is probably useless, but the rules are the rules).

These rules are petty, but blame Lance Armstrong and the legion of other cheaters (mostly in athletics and weightlifting).

It’s extremely unlikely he was doping to cheat. The majority of athletes who miss tests, do so due to recreational drug use