Draft of 2025-2028 WAG CoP

[Rich]

The draft for the WAG CoP for the next quad
VT

• Vaults may have the same post-flight but a 0.20 VT Bonus will be awarded to vaults with post-flights in different directions.
• Round off half-on vaults will now be deducted for insufficient LA turn in the first flight phase
• Double salto vaults prohibited for juniors
  UB
• Tkatchev principle will now also be applied to Jaegers (only one Jaeger with or without turn will be recognized)
• No change in CV formula
• All Tkatchev 1/2 variations to catch in mixed L grip has been devalued to their non 1/2 variation.

Element Value

• Martins down to E
• Black down to F
• Kononenko down to D
• Li Ya down to D
• Derwael-Fenton down to E
• Endo up to D!
• Endo 1/1 up to E!
• Tweddle down to D
• Fenton II down to E
• Derwael II down to F
• Double Lay 1/1 dismount up to F!
  BB

-0.1 CV for B+D acro has specified that it should be “travelling bwd”

-Artistry deduction: 0.20 deduction option for body posture and rhythm is added

Element Value

• Stag Jump (A) is added to ToE (same box as Sissone)
• Garrison down to B

FX

• CV: 0.2 for indirect C+D 0.2 for direct B+D

-Artistry: same as BB, 0.20 deduction is now possible for body posture.

• The same is true for Musicality: poor expressive engagement and lack of connectivity to music.
• 1/2 variations of Arabian double tuck and pike has been moved to Group 5 (Saltos Backward)

Element Value

• Split Ring Jump 1/1 (Jurkowska-Kowalska) down to C
• Oliveira down to E

 

[KristyJ]

The Garrison they are devaluing I assume is the mount? A B rating seems rather low. Also, are they attempting to simply eliminate the front handspring + front tuck combo? I get that there were issues with the walkover vs handspring technique, but surely that is overly restrictive? I would argue a Tkatchev 1/2 done properly is more difficult than a base Tkatchev… I am not fully sure what they mean by postflight in a different direction on vault. Do they mean twisting in opposition to the initial twist onto the horse? Or do they simply mean two vaults with a different postflight? And why would they do that to arabians? Surely that is also overly restrictive. I am thankful for the added posture deductions, though.

 

[tempest]

I think this is the Garrison they are referring to

 

[RedBirdie]

Pamchenkova has a breakdown here, including screenshots from the draft code.

 

[gymfan]

I hope the FIG makes some changes on beam, like adjusting the mixed series bonus.

 

[Concorde]

Also, are they attempting to simply eliminate the front handspring + front tuck combo? I get that there were issues with the walkover vs handspring technique, but surely that is overly restrictive?

B + D acrobatic connections where both skills are forward elements will still earn 0.2 CV.

Currently, B + D acrobatic connections where the series travels backward earns 0.1 CV. When the 2022-2024 COP was first released, there was some confusion as to whether back handspring + Onodi would be eligible for CV under this rule because an Onodi is considered to be a forward acrobatic element. The purpose of this clarification is to eliminate that ambiguity.

 

[Concorde]

I am not fully sure what they mean by postflight in a different direction on vault. Do they mean twisting in opposition to the initial twist onto the horse? Or do they simply mean two vaults with a different postflight?

The purpose of the first change on vault is to allow a gymnast to vault both a double twisting Yurchenko and a double twisting Tsukahara vault. The second change will award a 0.2 in bonus if a gymnast does one vault with a forward salto and a second vault with a backward salto, or vice versa.

Example 1:

• layout Rudi and Cheng - no bonus awarded since the post flight is forward on both vaults

Example 2:

• Amanar and layout front full - 0.2 bonus awarded since one vault is backward flight and the other vault is forward flight.

 

[irichluck21]

Not sure if I like the .2 bonus …yet.

 

[tempest]

Not sure if I like the .2 bonus …yet.

I agree… most vault finalists do a yurchenko and an Omelianchik entry already so they will get the .2 while someone like Moreno gets .2 as well but it’s a wash

 

[irichluck21]

The purpose of the first change on vault is to allow a gymnast to vault both a double twisting Yurchenko and a double twisting Tsukahara vault.

I call this …the Zamo clause

 

[Denn]

the irony is that doing a correct, clean Kasamatsu is not doing a backward vault, and the Women’s Technical Committee may have just demonstrated their ignorance.

 

[MrSixkiller]

There’s a first time for everything! Oh wait…

 

[Denn]

No, it’s the sort of sideways valdez-like thing she did. Totally should be a B. reasonable change.

 

[MrSixkiller]

Thank GOD they will finally start deducting pre-flights in half-on vaults. It’s absurd that it wasn’t happening before.

What on earth are they thinking giving a back 3/2 or front 1/1 + Double Tuck 0.2 CV? Totally unnecessary. We will probably see nothing but that pass for four years.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

how on earth is this an E now?! It should be a friggin G, Jesus Christ



I also hate the C+D .2, and D+B .2 CV on floor

 

[tempest]

I never understood how the Dos Santos 1 is a F yet the same skill with a 1/2 turn is also a F now going to an E… will the dos santos 1 also go to an E

 

[KristyJ]

Ah, I just misunderstood what “in a different direction” meant. Personally I still feel that a Tsuk and a Yurchenko are substantially different vaults so dictating that a double twisting of both is somehow less still eludes me, but I see better what they were trying to do here. At least they are changing the rule to allow both, which should have been allowed all along.

 

[Beamer]

What are the CV structures for FX in the 2022-2024 Code?

 

[Concorde]

B + D direct acrobatic connections and C + D indirect acrobatic connections would earn 0.2 in CV. Otherwise, the rules remain the same.

 

[Beamer]

Thanks, but I don’t know the current (2022-2024) FX CV structures. That’s what I’m asking.