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I am wondering if the coaching change Donnell made to training at EVO has helped him to develop more mental consistency in competition. This year is the most consistent I remember him being. I feel like his inconsistency and fluke errors in the past have affected his reputation but he was great all this year.
Agree with you on this: He's DEFINITELY come back MUCH stronger mentally. I watched some of his earlier competitions but this time, he looked really dialed in. He worked on his consistency, especially in the last ring handstand. On the PB, he looked really really strong eventhough he didn't medal on that event. 2028 is going to be VERY interesting.
 
Hasn't Donnell been a bit of a choker in the past? If he has entered a new era of consistency or ability to compete when it counts, I'm thrilled for him. I generally have counted him out because it felt like he always had issues during the big meets and, honestly, I'm not ready to write him in on my team predictions just yet. But he did great this last Worlds and maybe will give him confidence going forward.
I'll agree, having watched his previous matches, he was a choker. But for some reason, he has looked really calm the latter part of last season and entirely this season and he started really executing quite well. Time will tell but if he can remain consistent, then it's about to get very interesting.
 
I don't think USAG is purposefully ignoring Donnell. It's MAG, and USAG has a history of not caring about that as much as they should. No one could accuse them of ignoring Gabby Douglas or Simone Biles.

If Donnell stays healthy and comes back on FX and VT, he could be an MVP for the USA. I wouldn't call him good on HB, but he can do it.

Yul is coming back. I have a soft spot for Yul.

Oklahoma has some up-and-coming Juniors who could be a factor in 2028, so I will be rooting for them.

The Next Big Thing is going to Jun Iwai of Stanford.
I liked your post because you hit the nail on the head!!!!!!! The gymnastics publications DO ignore him for some reason....Honestly? I think that Donnell's strongest events are rings, PB and an occasional HB....Aaaaawwwww good to see Yul coming back but I'm not sure if he can really push right now...I will have to check out Jun Iwai and Oklahoma!
 
That still does not make sense. Is your argument that because he is African American he is not as featured as other gymnasts? I don’t believe American Gymnastics attempted to forget his accomplishments. That’s just the passage of time and new gymnasts like the ones you have mentioned finding success in the sport. Also, you have to be able to hit when it counts to make teams which has cost him in the past.

How many MAG fans do you think remember Jacob Dalton wining individual medals in 2013 & 2014? Probably not many and off the cuff most wouldn’t be able to tell you what color or event they were on. I’m curious if without looking it up yourself, you would even be able to talk about Whittenberg’s accomplishments.
First of all: tone. Let's act like adults here. We're all here to discuss our love for gymnastics. ?¿Comprendé? Now, let's address the VERY real elephant in the room (since YOU brought it up): (1) I CHALLENGE you to show me the post to where I stated that Donnell is ignored because he's African American-I'll wait....(2) You made a great point about passage of time and newer gymnasts....(3) You made another great point about teams and such. NOW: college teams and the general coaches at gymnastics have LONG had a fraught history with racial inequalities and we all know this: Fred Richards, himself DEFINITELY hinted at this, Biles, Jordan Chiles, Gabby Douglas being called the N-word, and Joshua McGee stating PUBLICLY that Kameron Nelson ALSO called him the N-word in addition to other teammates doing the same. It have been WELL documented that even judges have reputed to score African American and other minorities MORE harshly than other gymnasts. Don't get me started at how the Irish Gymastics refused to medal one of THEIR black teammates on NATIONAL TV like they did the other children who were not black. The list and assertions go on and on to include the lack of support from a more internalized structure within collegiate and professional gymnastics and this is NOT including the purported MAGA-supporting Brody Malone. NOW....Let's move on to the rest of the post: Jacob Dalton DID retire in 2017, I think but he still had a great gymnastics career. Not many people know about his team, vault, and other medals. And actually, for your information, a LOT of people, non-African American and African American, are WELL aware of Donnell's accomplishments and such but even IF people had to look him up, isn't that what gymnastics is all about? (1) Exposure and (2) Admiration. You see, gymnastics is for EVERYONE and not the select few, don't you think? Instead of trying to bait me into purported gymnastics racism, you SHOULD be putting me onto American Men's Champions-regardless of color, but then you know that, right...?
 
First of all: tone. Let's act like adults here. We're all here to discuss our love for gymnastics. ?¿Comprendé? Now, let's address the VERY real elephant in the room (since YOU brought it up): (1) I CHALLENGE you to show me the post to where I stated that Donnell is ignored because he's African American-I'll wait....(2) You made a great point about passage of time and newer gymnasts....(3) You made another great point about teams and such. NOW: college teams and the general coaches at gymnastics have LONG had a fraught history with racial inequalities and we all know this: Fred Richards, himself DEFINITELY hinted at this, Biles, Jordan Chiles, Gabby Douglas being called the N-word, and Joshua McGee stating PUBLICLY that Kameron Nelson ALSO called him the N-word in addition to other teammates doing the same. It have been WELL documented that even judges have reputed to score African American and other minorities MORE harshly than other gymnasts. Don't get me started at how the Irish Gymastics refused to medal one of THEIR black teammates on NATIONAL TV like they did the other children who were not black. The list and assertions go on and on to include the lack of support from a more internalized structure within collegiate and professional gymnastics and this is NOT including the purported MAGA-supporting Brody Malone. NOW....Let's move on to the rest of the post: Jacob Dalton DID retire in 2017, I think but he still had a great gymnastics career. Not many people know about his team, vault, and other medals. And actually, for your information, a LOT of people, non-African American and African American, are WELL aware of Donnell's accomplishments and such but even IF people had to look him up, isn't that what gymnastics is all about? (1) Exposure and (2) Admiration. You see, gymnastics is for EVERYONE and not the select few, don't you think? Instead of trying to bait me into purported gymnastics racism, you SHOULD be putting me onto American Men's Champions-regardless of color, but then you know that, right...?
Are you from Reddit?
 
Are you from Reddit?
Are you going to show me that post to where I stated that Donnell is being ignored because he's African American or no...? Until then, I will continue to look up and view OTHER great American Men's gymnasts, regardless of color.....But I'll be waiting to see that post that you said that I put up. Thanks in advance
 
I'm new to this particular party and I am reading about the Voineas. If this is true, then this is VERY disturbing...Wow...
There’s a separate thread for the voineas. Please do visit it, I’m very interested to see your take on the whole situation. With particular reference to the safe guarding of young women in an emergent post communist society
 
Pop some popcorn and break out the bubbly. Always a good discussion here and Junior Worlds is upcoming.
I can't wait for Junior Worlds. I haven't seen Junior Worlds yet so I'm excited. That being said: She accused me of something and I'd like to see her post where I said such things, otherwise, she's just race-baiting and we shouldn't have that on this forum, right?
 
I can't wait for Junior Worlds. I haven't seen Junior Worlds yet so I'm excited. That being said: She accused me of something and I'd like to see her post where I said such things, otherwise, she's just race-baiting and we shouldn't have that on this forum, right?
What is race baiting? I don’t think we have that in Russia. Do I need to bring my own worms? How does it work on an internet forum? So many questions! This has really piqued my interest
 

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