Tom Forster added to USAG selection committee

[Pisenlit3]

'Potential' isn't the same thing as actual scores received and known, especially not when we're talking about Grace McCallum. Skinner's overall scores in Tokyo were higher, this is just a fact. 7.1 beam execution score and all. That's the best data we have.

Even then, there are three events not four, so why are you excluding one? By the same token, we should give equal airtime to a hypothetical that excludes beam. And actually that would make more sense, since the 4th was always more likely to be used on vault than anything else given Suni's strengths and injury.

Use your brain a little bit, I talk about why they chose Grace over Skinner, she was always the better aa and could score better than Myk at her best. Obviously she underperformed but that something the selection commitee couldn't know.

 

[Pisenlit3]

We have to remember that Skinner hit the meet of her life. McCallum did not and would have placed ahead of Skinner in the AA. McCallum was missing a CR and thus was missing .5 from her start value. That simple error alone was the reason for Skinner finishing ahead of McCallum.

Had McCallum completed the CR she would have been ranked 10th AA ahead of Skinner (11th) and MDJDS (10th).

McCallum was over .6 higher in her beam score in team finals.


It is also interesting that people argue Skinner over McCallum when in hindsight Jordan was the worst of the bunch the entire games. Fell off bars and beam in TQ and then fell on floor in team finals.

Ultimately the argument for Grace was bars and beam and that is what Skinner could not and did not deliver. 7.100 in execution for a hit routine is not what USA was looking for.

Additionally, Trials is not the only criteria for choosing the teams, which yes going by all around rankings frees the selection committee of criticism because it is the "fairest". But also Grace was two time World champion with the team, having competed multiple routines in team finals.

Thank you !! You took the words out of my mouth

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Use your brain a little bit, I talk about why they chose Grace over Skinner, she was always the better aa and could score better than Myk at her best. Obviously she underperformed but that something the selection commitee couldn't know.

Using your brain only a little bit appears to be what got you into this pickle in the first place.

It is a fact that Skinner's AA results were better than those McCallum got in TFs (and indeed prelims). This means the US would've been better, not worse off if they'd used her, based on the only data that actually matters. This isn't a complex point, as @MaryClare explained.

Arguing that someone had more potential on a carefully curated selection of events doesn't affect that. It particularly doesn't affect it when we're talking about someone with as many unfulfilled upgrades and consistency as patchy as McCallum.

And none of this is incompatible with thinking Grace was the better choice when it came to selection. But she was a valid pick despite Skinner having done better than her in the end. A strong argument will embrace and explain this, instead of trying to brush it under the carpet.

 

[Pisenlit3]

Using your brain only a little bit appears to be what got you into this pickle in the first place.

It is a fact that Skinner's AA results were better than those McCallum got in TFs (and indeed prelims). This means the US would've been better, not worse off if they'd used her, based on the only data that actually matters. This isn't a complex point, as @MaryClare explained.

Arguing that someone had more potential on a carefully curated selection of events doesn't affect that. It particularly doesn't affect it when we're talking about someone with as many unfulfilled upgrades and consistency as patchy as McCallum.

And none of this is incompatible with thinking Grace was the better choice when it came to selection. But she was a valid pick despite Skinner having done better than her in the end. A strong argument will embrace and explain this, instead of trying to brush it under the carpet

 

[Pisenlit3]

You are definetly slow asf...
Your argument is based on hindsight. It's not because Skinner got the best results that it's means she was the best choice. Yes with her score she would have contributed more but it doesn't change the fact that Grace was better than her. The lack of intelligence in this sub is insane.