Romania

[phoenix7]

Could it not be more that she doesn't want Sabrina to equal or surpass her, without her? So no chance of another coach.

 

[MaryClare]

Could it not be more that she doesn't want Sabrina to equal or surpass her, without her? So no chance of another coach.

I definitely don’t get that impression. Camelia would love Sabrina to be Olympic champion, and probably thinks she should be. I think she also highly rates herself as a coach and as such will not entrust anyone else

 

[flappergirl]

I definitely don’t get that impression. Camelia would love Sabrina to be Olympic champion, and probably thinks she should be. I think she also highly rates herself as a coach and as such will not entrust anyone else

That makes sense to me. The other scenario people discussed would have made it difficult for Camelia or Sabrina to have compete at an Olympic level

 

[Bob]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

 

[phoenix7]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

 

[MaryClare]

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

Yes the men got them too

 

[MaryClare]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

God I miss home bargains

 

[Passion]

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

Some of the men were placing the pictures down on the podium while posing for photos.

 

[Sanzhirovka]

Anyone listen to Patrick Kiens interview with apparently with Gymcastic where he supposed talks a bit about working in Romania?

 

[Passion]

Anyone listen to Patrick Kiens interview with apparently with Gymcastic where he supposed talks a bit about working in Romania?

The interview from the live show at NCAA Championships? I think you had to buy tickets to access it. This says the replay was only available for two weeks after the event.

GymCastic Live at the 2025 NCAA Championships

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gymcastic.com

 

[Sanzhirovka]

The interview from the live show at NCAA Championships? I think you had to buy tickets to access it. This says the replay was only available for two weeks after the event.

GymCastic Live at the 2025 NCAA Championships

Buy In-Person Ticket Buy Virtual Ticket Club Members – the discount code is: Season Pass Holders: You will receive an email with your ticket for the virtual show. If you wish to attend in person, every pass holder will receive a separate email that includes your promo code so you can attend for...

gymcastic.com

yeah, that’s the one!

I was hoping someone had listened to it and could give me a recap.

 

[Aeris]

I'd love to see what they can do with her, as this routine is gorgeous with the exception of flexed feet

It's NCAA, not like there's much to do. Chow/Shaposh + overshoot (not to handstand), stand on low bar to get back to HB, Stalder + hip hecht 1/1 dismount (also C rated in elite and yet nobody does it for some reason) = 10.0

 

[tempest]

It's NCAA, not like there's much to do. Chow/Shaposh + overshoot (not to handstand), stand on low bar to get back to HB, Stalder + hip hecht 1/1 dismount (also C rated in elite and yet nobody does it for some reason) = 10.0

What is a hip hecht 1/1 dismount? I can't picture it

 

[Aeris]

What is a hip hecht 1/1 dismount? I can't picture it

 

[irichluck21]

That skill is hard to keep pretty and land with a stick so that's why its not used. 1/1 giant to double tuck get the job done and much easier to stick.

 

[Aeris]

Disagree with it being hard to stick. Double tuck is generally safe for NCAA, but I've seen a few who could benefit from another option. Double tuck is also more prone to form deductions in elite and only B rated. I see so many elite routines going for sub-D rated dismounts that aren't worthwhile. They could be doing a hip hecht without twist for B dismount that is practically impossible to mess up, and work towards adding a twist or salto (Elze Guerts does that well). I think most people just don't realize it even exists.

 

[RedBirdie]

No one trains hip hechts these days. A hip hecht full is a dead-end skill, doubly so for elite, that's why hip hechts aren't taught. No one is going to teach hip hechts and hip hecht fulls when they can teach a double back that can potentially turn into various twisting variations or a double layout and all of it's twisting variations.

 

[MaryClare]

No one trains hip hechts these days. A hip hecht full is a dead-end skill, doubly so for elite, that's why hip hechts aren't taught. No one is going to teach hip hechts and hip hecht fulls when they can teach a double back that can potentially turn into various twisting variations or a double layout and all of it's twisting variations.

Yes, this is exactly.

It’s also why on the rare occasions we see UB dismounts that are not double saltos, they are toe on or stalder led. Because gymnasts train these skills already.

 

[Aeris]

That's absolutely not true about the hip hecht root being a dead-end skill. The hip/clear hecht salto is a D dismount and minimizes form errors, and there are further twisting variations that can be performed. The hip salto 1/2 would be a more achievable E for the majority of gymnasts than a mustafina IMO, and it's much more connectable than a double layout upgrade.

And it takes relatively little to train a basic B hip hecht. It's something any elite can do and would improve their score over whatever other B/C dismount they're doing that's often getting .3 or more deduction. A fair number of gymnasts never progress past competing a B/C dismount, or have very shitty form on their D dismounts (eating tons of deduction). It's a failure of coaching to have them only do those dismounts when a possible better option exists.

 

[Sanzhirovka]

And Romanian bars - are getting better?