Romania

[flappergirl]

That's precisely my point.

I noticed that in my Mom; she never wanted to support me in areas that she aspired to, but I didn’t realize it until I was an adult and grew to understand her aspirations and her shortcomings (in her own mind). As a kid, I just felt like a failure

 

[Aeris]

That's precisely my point.

I don't see any point? Where is the evidence that Camila wants her daughter to fail? She simply seems to be an incompetent coach and maybe a not-so-good mother.

 

[IratePanda]

I noticed that in my Mom; she never wanted to support me in areas that she aspired to, but I didn’t realize it until I was an adult and grew to understand her aspirations and her shortcomings (in her own mind). As a kid, I just felt like a failure

I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think some parents struggle to balance the desire to see their kids succeed against their own vanity and insecurity. I know my mom did and still does--even though I'm now 54 and she's 80. We ended up in completely different fields, but that never stopped her from projecting her own aspirations onto me while belittling my accomplishments.

 

[MaryClare]

My impression is that there are 2 issues. Camelia probably isn’t a good enough coach for this level. For any gymnast (has she ever coached another elite?). But she is particularly unsuited to coaching her own child. From what I have heard, there is no plan, structure or discipline to Sabrina’s training. They turn up and they do what they want. Not because Sabrina is rebelling against her mother, it’s just never been enforced by Camelia. This was the large part of the issue between the Voinea’s and the previous national team coaches, Sabrina and Camelia weren’t willing to put the work in that was expected of everyone else.

 

[phoenix7]

Could it not be more that she doesn't want Sabrina to equal or surpass her, without her? So no chance of another coach.

 

[MaryClare]

Could it not be more that she doesn't want Sabrina to equal or surpass her, without her? So no chance of another coach.

I definitely don’t get that impression. Camelia would love Sabrina to be Olympic champion, and probably thinks she should be. I think she also highly rates herself as a coach and as such will not entrust anyone else

 

[flappergirl]

I definitely don’t get that impression. Camelia would love Sabrina to be Olympic champion, and probably thinks she should be. I think she also highly rates herself as a coach and as such will not entrust anyone else

That makes sense to me. The other scenario people discussed would have made it difficult for Camelia or Sabrina to have compete at an Olympic level

 

[Bob]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

 

[phoenix7]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

 

[MaryClare]

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

Yes the men got them too

 

[MaryClare]

is is just me or are the framed pictures they get really naff. They look like something you could buy in Home Bargains.

God I miss home bargains

 

[Passion]

I quite like them, but are they only giving them to the women? Haven't seen men posing with them, so what do they get?

Some of the men were placing the pictures down on the podium while posing for photos.

 

[Sanzhirovka]

Anyone listen to Patrick Kiens interview with apparently with Gymcastic where he supposed talks a bit about working in Romania?

 

[Passion]

Anyone listen to Patrick Kiens interview with apparently with Gymcastic where he supposed talks a bit about working in Romania?

The interview from the live show at NCAA Championships? I think you had to buy tickets to access it. This says the replay was only available for two weeks after the event.

GymCastic Live at the 2025 NCAA Championships

Buy In-Person Ticket Buy Virtual Ticket Club Members – the discount code is: Season Pass Holders: You will receive an email with your ticket for the virtual show. If you wish to attend in person, every pass holder will receive a separate email that includes your promo code so you can attend for...

gymcastic.com

 

[Sanzhirovka]

The interview from the live show at NCAA Championships? I think you had to buy tickets to access it. This says the replay was only available for two weeks after the event.

GymCastic Live at the 2025 NCAA Championships

Buy In-Person Ticket Buy Virtual Ticket Club Members – the discount code is: Season Pass Holders: You will receive an email with your ticket for the virtual show. If you wish to attend in person, every pass holder will receive a separate email that includes your promo code so you can attend for...

gymcastic.com

yeah, that’s the one!

I was hoping someone had listened to it and could give me a recap.