Pan Am Meet 2021 (Olympic Qualifier)

[irichluck21]

She has competed at Gymnix before so somewhat of an international meet and she is slated to compete at the Doha World Cup in June on UB/BB/FX.

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

at 1:50 Lorrane Oliveira lands a double Arabian piked half out at podium training!

 

[Doug1233]

She’s of course going to want a G for this. I don’t think it should. I understand that the Tucked version is still an E, right?

 

[irichluck21]

It’s a bit sketchy to me, she doesn’t complete the second salto and then half out she starts twisting in the second salto.
It’s more of a half in half out piked IMO. But definitely cool to see and something different.

 

[Doug1233]

Rich, a double arabian half out IS a half in half out.

If you’re thinking of a Carly Patterson / Chuso type skill, I would NOT consider that a half in half out. It’s a full twisting double back.

 

[irichluck21]

To me, she doesn’t finish the second salto before twisting out. I am thinking more about the North Korean gymnast who did it in tuck. It was a late twist out.
I would prefer the pike salto finished before the twist rather than twisting in the pike.

 

[Doug1233]

I think it’s fine. It’s a Barani out. The second salto is initiated forwards.

But IMO it should still be an F. That doesn’t mean that I think it’s 0.2 easier than a Silivas. But that’s more an issue with the Silivas than an issue here.

 

[Doug1233]

#gymgasm

 

[Marcio_Custodio]

God bless :crossed_fingers:t2:
She deserves one shot at fulfilling her potential

 

[ucrgirl]

I hope she gets that Olympic spot and has her best competition there. These clips look excellent.

 

[RichardL]

Andrade for Olympic AA silver!!

 

[makam]

Is PanAms day 1: team and AA and day 2: all EFs? I guess it makes sense to compress it as much as possible…

 

[Sasha]

Niiiice.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Have we got rosters etc yet? I know who isn’t there, but not who is. Other than Brazil obv.

 

[Doug1233]

Wow! I think I’d go 9.6 (with 1 for height but 0 for distance - hard to see with such a tight shot).

 

[mnesiptolema]

Sometimes I wish, when I see this kind of gymnastics, that the symbolism of the 10 was available to judges. I can see it’s not a perfect vault, but it’s so beautiful. There’s a video from another angle which shows the flair out before she lands too.

 

[irichluck21]

Yeah that was about a 14.9/15 for me…rivaling Chiles for great DTY

 

[YurchenkoLoop]

Someone tell her to get rid of one of her D tumbles. Maybe they’re being extra cautious in the event that her turns are downgraded, but she’s just losing unnecessary tenths with the 8 D skills and the front 1.0 stepout C skill.



Don’t forget Jones’ DTY too! She has great style on that vault. Best lines on the US team too.

 

[Marcio_Custodio]

What is her D score for that FX routine?

 

[Doug1233]

She’s going for 5.9. I’d credit 5.7 - no Gogean no switch full.

FYI an easy way to calculate D Score is to start at 4.4 (assuming 8 Cs and all requirements met) and add bonus tenths for D (0.1), E (0.2) etc… and then add CV and SB on top. Kinda bringing it back to 01-04 Code. You can kinda do it on your fingers if you’re watching without pen and paper.

Of course, it’s not foolproof. Many elite routines don’t count 8 Cs (and count one or more B’s). Many routines count 9 D+ so you must watch out for not over counting “bonus”. Downgrades can mess it up because you might repeat a skill. You have to be careful of the 3 root Max rules on bars. And you must always count the dismount (even if they have 8 Ds already, for example). But for stock routines it’s a quick and dirty way of doing it.