NCAA PAC 12 left with 2 schools (WSU/OSU) Conference outlook is dire

[RedBirdie]

Washington and Oregon head to Big 10.

That moved fast. Wonder how long before Stanford and Cal follow.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

One thing that isn’t expensive - Cal MENS gymnastics. It’s entirely donor funded. It costs the University next to nothing. That still might not be enough to save it. Cal has so many non revenue sports.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

So now it is the PAC 4. The conference is basically dead.
It’s going to be interesting, and probably not in a good way for gymnastics.

Stanford could probably go independant. Not sure about the rest of them.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

 

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[irichluck21]

Big 12 votes in Utah, ASU, bringing league to 16

The Big 12 bumped its membership to 16 teams beginning in 2024-25 after unanimously voting in Utah and Arizona State and welcoming Arizona.

www.espn.com

Arizona, ASU, Utah head to Big 12

 

[irichluck21]

So very soon:

Pac 12 (won’t sponsor a conference meet)
Cal
Oregon State
Stanford

Big 12
West Virginia
Iowa State
Denver
BYU
Arizona
ASU
Utah

Big 10
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
Michigan State
Michigan
Minnesota
Nebraska
Illinois
Iowa
Ohio State
UCLA
Washington

ACC (new)
Clemson
UNC
NC State
Pitt

Mountain West (new)
Air Force
Boise State
San Jose State
Utah State

Mountain Rim (no longer sponsoring conference meet)
Southern Utah

Mountain Pacific
Alaska
UC Davis
Sacramento State

EAGL
Towson
Temple
LIU
George Washington
New Hampshire

SEC
Florida
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Georgia
LSU
Missouri
Kentucky
Oklahoma

 

[irichluck21]

Hopefully Southern Utah can join MPSF so that there are 4 teams.

It would make sense for Oregon State, Stanford, Cal to join as well to make 7 teams.

Unless Southern Utah joins the Pac 12 for gymnastics.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

The UC regents met today to discuss options.

The ACC is thinking about absorbing Cal and Stanford.

The word is either they will take both or neither. People are putting the odds about 50/50 this happens.

Probably by the time most people read this something else even more bizarro will happened.

 

[irichluck21]

Talks are in for Cal and Stanford to join the ACC.

That would leave just Oregon State and Washington State without home.
Most likely option for OSU would be to join Mountain West.

 

[RedBirdie]

I’m actually a bit shocked Cal and Stanford weren’t wanted by the Big Ten. Beyond sports, they are both member of the Association of American Universities, which B10 considers to be a requirement to join.

Nebraska used to be an AAU member, but was voted out after Big Ten had already accepted them.

 

[irichluck21]

Yeah I guess Big Ten and Big 12 said no more universities.

I think it was stupid of Big Ten not to take either Cal or Stanford. With UCLA, USC, Washington, and Oregon these 6 could have been the “West Division” with the current West Division going to “Central Division” and East Division staying the same.

Then it wouldn’t really be Big 10 but Big 20.

 

[RedBirdie]

But it hasn’t been the Big 10 since 1991! (Hidden 11 remains a shining example of clever design)

 

[irichluck21]

I know it’s been 14 teams for years also LOL.

Just funny that Big 10 stayed the same name but then Pac 10 became Pac 12 with Utah and Colorado in 2011.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

The B1G didn’t want Stanford or Cal because their football isn’t good. Cal’s men’s basketball is also…not good.

Another reason being given is the Bay Area TV market is felt to be “overrated”.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

ACC and PAC 12 talked today, but no conclusion has been reached.
ACC also considering adding SMU

ACC expansion: SMU emerges as potential target along with Stanford, Cal from Pac-12, per reports

The Mustangs were long seen as an expansion candidate for the Pac-12

www.cbssports.com

 

[Yarotska]

The ACC is thinking about absorbing Cal and Stanford.

So then maybe New Hampshire, George Washington, Towson, and Temple can join the Pac 12 and safe the conference

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

It’s not geographically any weirder than UCLA joining the B1G.

It doesn’t look like it’s happening at this point, anyway.

Might as well from 1 league of the Big 100.

 

[irichluck21]

If the PAC 12 stays the PAC 4 or adds some members (highly doubt it).

One way they can keep the conference meet is if they get an affiliate member, which Southern Utah currently has no home with the MRGC dissolving.

 

[RedBirdie]

If you’re interested in the specifics around the collapse of the Pac12, The Athletic has bad some good articles, albeit football-focused. Here’s today’s: ‘All hell broke loose’: The chaotic final days that shook the Pac-12 and college football to their core - The Athletic