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If I burned as many calories as Jade every day I’d eat that every day. As it is I’m more likely to burn 300 calories on a hike twice a week.
 
Oh gosh I remember the CONTROVERSY when 15 year old Maria Kryuchkova (RIP) was photographed drinking beer at the after party at Anaheim worlds
 
For some reason I read this at first as if you were saying she died from drinking (that one beer).
 
The deficit is just about 0.2 from Lee’s beam routine, and beam is an unpredictable event. Miller’s bars consistency and higher expected cushion will justify a specialist spot.
I would definitely push back on the Roberson-vs-Lee beam deficit being that small – I think US Classic judging was too lenient on Roberson with that 8.0 e score, whereas I think that Suni Lee can actually achieve low to mid-8s given her technique and international reputation. While beam is unpredictable I think Lee has been a confident competitor there for years now, and her NCAA track record isn’t insignificant (given we saw her doing elite level combos each week like side aerial to double LOSOs).

Anyway, this highest scoring team math is kinda hard to work out in all its permutations. I think you’re right that Zoe Miller has a 4 to 5 tenth margin on any other 3rd best bar worker US might put up in TF (Biles, or Blakely let’s say) – but I think there are a few other gymnasts who also carry a single-event margin close that that who are also usable on 1 or 2 additional events – namely Carey or Roberson for vault. It’s hard to come up with all these permutations while knowing that Lee is a perfect lock for her beam and bars contributions but not knowing how that will all pan out.

Should we assume that her condition had her perfectly capable on bars on Podium Training only to be out of commission the next day? I wish that a single reporter had directly addressed her bars scratch instead of asking her bland sports psychology questions. (Or did I miss that somewhere?)
 
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No. She had a brain tumour. But her having a beer at 15 was quite controversial at the time
 
I’m not convinced that Suni returning to competition this year is the right decision. I think it would have been wiser to wait until next year. Does USAG have any sort of medical clearance procedure?
 
I mean, if Suni can’t do worlds, my ideal team would be Biles, Jones, Blakely, Chiles, and Lincoln.

Biles and Jones would be for sure AA. Third AA could go to anyone, really, but Blakely and Chiles would be the likely two to battle for it, in this situation.
 
I’m not convinced that Suni returning to competition this year is the right decision. I think it would have been wiser to wait until next year.
Unless she has no reason to think she will be any better next year. In which case why not just go for it.
 
I know I’m in the minority or maybe the only one, I think Suni should retire completely. It’s not like she hasn’t accomplished a lot in the sport. She is a world and Olympic gold medalist plus other medals. Reagan Smith should have won worlds in 2017 she was an alternate for Rio. She was an alternate on the world’s team but at least got a world gold for it. I could understand someone who could of accomplished so much more pushing through something like this. Even then I wouldn’t think it was a good idea. Suni should retire and just take care of her health.
 
If she isn’t going to be any better next year, that means she’s only ever going to do vault and beam. It seems that what she is lacking is time. That’s why it doesn’t seem logical to me to push for this year when she’s coming off the back of a full NCAA season and a major health issue.
 
I didn’t realize her kidney issues were chronic. Did she announce that somewhere? I thought they were transient like leftovers from a virus or overtraining or something. If this is going to be something she is dealing with forever, I guess a last hurrah makes sense but only if it doesn’t cause further injury to her.
 
I think it’s impossible to determine what Suni should do without knowing what her actual diagnosis is. All we know now is that she has multiple kidney issues that presented with intense swelling overnight, and currently cause unpredictable swelling and multiple medications. These symptoms could be attributed to multiple different kidney conditions. Some could improve over time, some could stabilize with medication adjustments, some could remain unpredictable, and some could progress and get worse. Without knowing the exact condition it’s impossible to know if waiting until next year, competing now, or retiring is the best course of action. Obviously Suni should be allowed to keep this information private if she chooses to do so.
 
If this is going to be something she is dealing with forever, I guess a last hurrah makes sense but only if it doesn’t cause further injury to her.
I totally get that she would feel that way.
 
Personally, speaking as someone with serious chronic illness, I also lean towards thinking she should retire. While I agree that we can’t judge anything with certainty given how little we know, anyone in the gym world who is advising her isn’t truly disinterested or independent (they all value gym very highly), and Suni has of course centred her athletic career for essentially her entire life. She has no meaningful conception of what the rest of her life will look like without it, or what is really going to happen after retirement, so it’s natural that she still wants to continue… But she also doesn’t truly understand (because no one does at her age if previously healthy) what it will be like if she ends up needing a transplant, or what that level of restriction will be like for her in terms of her later aims and goals (immunosuppressive medications, etc.).

Of course I’m not saying that continuing to do gym means Suni’s health will inevitably worsen, and I very, very much hope it won’t. But there is a sense of invulnerability which most people feel at a young age, even if you have experienced illness or disability in your family. It’s still hard to transfer that into really conceptualising its meaning for yourself and your own life.

Obviously I’m not an elite gymnast and Olympic gold medalist, but even without those pressures and aspirations, I know from bitter experience that I made my own health situation deteriorate very much by believing that pushing through and accomplishing high level goals (in another field) would be worth it. It fulfilled me in some respects, but now in my thirties I do have regrets.
 
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