Random Russia sh*t

[Sasha]

Would the judges actually go through the motions of assessing the SV of an elite routine in a situation like that, or would it be safe to assume they meet the threshold for a 10?

 

[cftmoonlight79]

I dont know the elite code, but years ago right before Kayla Williams did elite we rotated with her in a level 10 session. The elite code had already switched the leap pass requirement, but level 10 still had a direct connect requirement. She did not do one and therefore started at a 9.5.
Also, in a previous code the elites did not have a two salto/combo pass and we have always had that in level 10. Not having one would also result in a 9.5 SV. So there are possibilities where they may not meet the requirements.

 

[MaryClare]

Some of the juniors have started to receive AIN status ahead of junior euros. So far, Ksenia Butorina and Radmir Musaev. I don’t know why particularly those 2 first, but it could be just administrative reasons as they are both from Moscow. I don’t really keep up with junior mag but the other girls I’d expect to be registered in the coming weeks are Polina Dmitrieva, Alexandra Andrianova, Kira Ivanova and Alina Yarina

 

[MaryClare]

Polina Dmitrieva, Alexandra Iskakova and Dimitry Sukholdolsky given AIN status by WG today. All juniors. Plus some coaching and support staff but no one especially notable

 

[MaryClare]

It is “Russian NCAAs” aka national students championships. It’s not easy to find info results since it’s not a RGF event, it is run by the national student sports association. Urazova is scheduled to compete, there may be other ex national team members too.

 

[MaryClare]

Well, there we have a piece of history.

FIG Licence 4042 and her granddaughter 110817

 

[Denn]

Wow, she's GREAT, too.

 

[MaryClare]

Wow, she's GREAT, too.

She is very impressive in training, but she rarely competes which is weird. She didn’t compete in the latest youth championships, but did attend national team training so she’s not injured. Her father Sergei is junior national team coach, taken over from Mustafina. But he isn’t her personal coach, their names are not familiar to me.

 

[MaryClare]

Russian national team are on a training holiday to Antalya. Minus Melnikova as she has her own travel plans.

Zlata Osokina, Anna Kalmykova, Milana Kayumova, Alyona Glotova, Lyudmila Roschina, Viktoria Listunova, Elizaveta Us

 

[MaryClare]

Russia is sending a junior women’s team to the Baku International tournament this weekend.

ANDRIANOVA, ALEKSANDRA SERGEEVNA
DMITRIEVA, POLINA YUR’EVNA
BUTORINA, KSENIA EGOREVNA
ISKAKOVA, ALEKSANDRA ANDREEVNA

 

[MaryClare]

Some impressive scores in Baku. None of the Russian girls have competed internationally before.

 

[MaryClare]

Some personal news. A gymnast I am on the coaching team for, made the regional youth team and I have been awarded $70 (5000 rubles) by the ministry of sport. I won’t spend it all at once.

 

[KorbutFan]

The drinks are on MaryClare !

 

[Bob]

Well done though! Greater things to come obviously!

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Some personal news. A gymnast I am on the coaching team for, made the regional youth team and I have been awarded $70 (5000 rubles) by the ministry of sport. I won’t spend it all at once.

Ker-fucking-ching!

 

[RedBirdie]

@MaryClare random question for you: do you know if Elizaveta Grebenkova got US citizenship, or only has Russian citizenship?

Someone on reddit commented that they thought it was possible that Elizaveta only did level 10 because her parents know just how intense elite gymnastics is and didn't want to have her deal with that. But that got me thinking that it's possible she doesn't have US citizenship, so level 10 is really as far as she can go without having to return to Russia. And while Irina Alexeeva was willing to go train at Round Lake, not everyone would make that decision.

Also entirely possible that Elizaveta just wasn't interested in elite and/or doesn't have what it takes to be a top tier elite. The jump from level 10 to elite is so much bigger than 99% of people realize.

 

[KathySantoni]

Is Elizabeta Ludmila Ezhova’s daughter?

 

[MaryClare]

@MaryClare random question for you: do you know if Elizaveta Grebenkova got US citizenship, or only has Russian citizenship?

Someone on reddit commented that they thought it was possible that Elizaveta only did level 10 because her parents know just how intense elite gymnastics is and didn't want to have her deal with that. But that got me thinking that it's possible she doesn't have US citizenship, so level 10 is really as far as she can go without having to return to Russia. And while Irina Alexeeva was willing to go train at Round Lake, not everyone would make that decision.

Also entirely possible that Elizaveta just wasn't interested in elite and/or doesn't have what it takes to be a top tier elite. The jump from level 10 to elite is so much bigger than 99% of people realize.

Lyudmila was asked this on instagram recently and she said that Liza is Russian and not American. When they first left Russia, they went to Canada and were coaching with the Lobaznyuks. It might be that they haven’t been US residents long enough to obtain citizenship. I don’t think it’s a deliberate decision not to become citizens, they seem way more American than the Liukins for example. Adding to that, Liza seems to have a very typical high schooler life and I think that’s probably what they want for their kids much more than elite gymnastics.

 

[RedBirdie]

Thanks, MC.

I also know the process to obtain US citizenship can be winding and full of unexpected hurdles, even for those who move to the country with the intention of starting the process as quickly as possible. So wasn't so much a "they're Russians who don't want to become Americans" as much as me assuming if they did want citizenship, it can be a long journey and it just hadn't happened yet.

 

[MaryClare]

Thanks, MC.

I also know the process to obtain US citizenship can be winding and full of unexpected hurdles, even for those who move to the country with the intention of starting the process as quickly as possible. So wasn't so much a "they're Russians who don't want to become Americans" as much as me assuming if they did want citizenship, it can be a long journey and it just hadn't happened yet.

Yes I saw that Laurent Landi only recently got his.

I don’t know enough about the US men’s development program, but I’d say Alex Grebenkov is working at a higher level than Liza and potentially elite tracked. He competed L9 at dev nationals this year. He’s 15, I’ve no idea where they were in 2011 but potentially he’s Canadian. Their youngest daughter Eva is definitely American, but she’s only 6/7. Lyudmila and Liza are actually in Moscow at the moment, some sort of trip celebrating Liza graduating high school.