Random gymnastics questions

[JaJa]

If you want mega tumbles go watch tumbling.

People say that all the time but it is completely unfair. WAG consists of 4 apparatus and most of us love all four or at least 3 of the 4. We do NOT want to just watch tumbling. But we do want to watch big skills especially on FX and Vault. What if I said if you want to watch extreme artistry go to the ballet?

 

[makam]

But if you limit the tumble runs to three or four and had other requirements like they currently do, it wouldn't become a tumble competition. Make them do two different scales and it could become a comedy competition...

 

[KristyJ]

I think a 25' depth might be more limiting than people realize. Yes, most performance stages are rectangular, but they are also generally much larger for established companies-- Lincoln Center, for instance, is 80' x 100'. Skating rinks are rectangular but an Olympic rink is 98' x 197' and it is considered good, even necessary, practice to use diagonals for many things. Sure few variations or dance solos take the whole stage, but if we want to compare to spaces that allow for wide artistic movement, 25' can be very shallow and 40' depth will easily be used. I'm almost certain athletes would use the diagonals for tumbling anyways. They will fill and overfill any amount of space allotted them.

 

[Denn]

Disagree. You can't compare floor exercise mats to professional performance stages designed for huge production sets and large performance ensembles. Or to rinks for a sport that involves gliding. In fact, the only movement for which we see gymnasts use the 40' width are hideous leap "passages" with 8 million chassés.

Not to mention, 25' x 64' still has diagonals — AND other lines. In fact, guess how long it is from one corner to the opposite side's middle? Yep, it's 40 feet. And there's 4 of them to choose from.

I'm sorry, but these comments about it only going left to right or about it turning into tumbling are just crazy. Is this your real belief? Or are you used to 40 x 40 and struggling with the idea of changing it? We changed the vault table — and some people wailed about it at first — but now look where we are. It's been wonderful.

BTW, a longer tumbling space that allows gymnasts to more easily fit two big saltos in the same pass without risking going out of bounds might actually decrease the number of tumbling passes for some gymnasts (especially the men), giving more time for dance. Remember, they still have to count 3 dance elements.

 

[KristyJ]

I do think we need go no farther than the 80s and 90s compulsories that used the full 40' of the floor well for choreography, and certainly others also have over time

 

[Denn]

I do think we need go no farther than the 80s and 90s compulsories that used the full 40' of the floor well for choreography, and certainly others also have over time

But as I said, there's still plenty of 40' lines in a 25 by 64 space.