Event 2025 American Classic (Jun 26-29)

[RedBirdie]

Not for juniors. They can only qualify AA.

 

[blake]

Charleigh Bullock's UB

 

[RedBirdie]

Seniors are about to kick off here. Qualification scores:

4 event: 52.00/13.00 ave
3 event: 39.60/13.20 ave
2 event: 26.8/13.4 ave

And a reminder that new for this year, if a gymnasts uses vault for a 2 or 3 event score, she must do TWO vaults. If they only do one vault, they cannot use vault to try and qualify to nationals.

 

[Hatsumomo]

Ugh, I hate that FlipNow only offers annual subscriptions

 

[MaryClare]

Ugh, I hate that FlipNow only offers annual subscriptions

You can pay per meet for $14.99

 

[Hatsumomo]

You can pay per meet for $14.99

Ah, I see it now. Thanks. The TV app wasn't showing that option.

 

[Hatsumomo]

Charleigh Bullock's UB

Domestic scoring has to be taken with a grain of salt, but a 14.450 puts her in contention with the current top UB workers. Kaylia Nemour won Tashkent and Nina Derwael won Euros with a 14.7 and 14.466, respectively. If she can maintain this level of performance going into senior elite and is TF-worthy on the other three events, she'll likely walk onto teams.

 

[RedBirdie]

Not going to be many qualifiers from the seniors. Only 3 are on pace to do so after 3 rotations, and 2 of them still have to do beam. It's basically mathematically impossible for anyone else to qualify. Maaaaaybe Harlow Buddendeck if she pulls out a big clean DTY.

 

[MaryClare]

Domestic scoring has to be taken with a grain of salt, but a 14.450 puts her in contention with the current top UB workers. Kaylia Nemour won Taskent and Nina Derwael won Euros with a 14.7 and 14.466, respectively. If she can maintain this level of performance going into senior elite and is TF-worthy on the other three events, she'll likely walk onto teams.

Lots of potential but way too many form errors for me to be a 14+ score

 

[david]

What’s the qualifying score to US classic?

 

[BB12]

Domestic scoring has to be taken with a grain of salt, but a 14.450 puts her in contention with the current top UB workers. Kaylia Nemour won Taskent and Nina Derwael won Euros with a 14.7 and 14.466, respectively. If she can maintain this level of performance going into senior elite and is TF-worthy on the other three events, she'll likely walk onto teams.

Did Kaylia or Nina do watered down routines at Euros?

Charleigh is clearly very good but I'm just surprised there was enough in that routine to put up a comparative score to those other two whose routines are jam packed.

 

[RedBirdie]

Only Alicia Zhou and Izzy Stassi qualified. Quickly scanning the rest of the results, Myli Lew might have made it on bars and beam.

 

[MaryClare]

What’s the qualifying score to US classic?

52 currently. But I think it’ll be lowered to 51

 

[RedBirdie]

@MaryClare you'll be thrilled! Your favorite US junior, Sophia Buechler, qualified to nationals.

 

[MaryClare]

@MaryClare you'll be thrilled! Your favorite US junior, Sophia Buechler, qualified to nationals.

Hahaha. She has potential on bars. But I am still not over that floor routine. I even used it in a seminar

 

[eanda]

Hahaha. She has potential on bars. But I am still not over that floor routine. I even used it in a seminar

I was curious after these comments and looked her up. Plenty has already been said here. I'm mostly curious about a gymnast getting to this point - last year at junior elite - and not having better quality of movement. Not even getting into the poor choreo, completely disconnected from music, execution problems, etc., but just moving in a way that looks intentional and not just barely going through motions. Even in my J.O. judging days, I saw plenty of gymnasts who at least understood this, and not just the level 9s and 10s.

 

[RedBirdie]

I was curious after these comments and looked her up. Plenty has already been said here. I'm mostly curious about a gymnast getting to this point - last year at junior elite - and not having better quality of movement. Not even getting into the poor choreo, completely disconnected from music, execution problems, etc., but just moving in a way that looks intentional and not just barely going through motions. Even in my J.O. judging days, I saw plenty of gymnasts who at least understood this, and not just the level 9s and 10s.

She was rushed through the levels in order to rush her to Hopes and Elite. There's no foundation. I'm not saying you have to be a state champ at the compulsory levels in order to be a successful optional gymnast or elite, but her compulsory scores aren't impressive. Then she did a handful of level 7 meets in 2020. In 2021 she tested Hopes, did an in-house mobility meets to score through levels 8 and 9 (she scored out of those levels on the same day), capped off with a couple of level 10 meets in early 2022. She's been doing Hopes and elite exclusively since then.

She had the meet of her life at a qualifier in 2023 when she was competing Hopes, got the minimum qualification score for junior elite, and they had her do elite the rest of the year. Terrible choice, she should have remained at Hopes. She looked way out of her league the rest of the elite season and didn't come close to qualifying for nationals. But if you compete elite, you can never do Hopes again, so 2024 was one giant struggle and she didn't even get the elite qualifying score to compete at Classics.

She's been completely mishandled by RGA Minnesota (former gym) and Midwest (current gym), imo. Someone decided she was going to be elite when she was young and they were determined to make it happen, damn the consequences.

 

[MaryClare]

I was curious after these comments and looked her up. Plenty has already been said here. I'm mostly curious about a gymnast getting to this point - last year at junior elite - and not having better quality of movement. Not even getting into the poor choreo, completely disconnected from music, execution problems, etc., but just moving in a way that looks intentional and not just barely going through motions. Even in my J.O. judging days, I saw plenty of gymnasts who at least understood this, and not just the level 9s and 10s.

Yes, I completely agree. Some people took my reaction badly, but I genuinely couldn’t fathom why any coach would allow an athlete to compete elite so young when there are serious issues that need a huge amount of attention.

I’ll be interested to see how she looks, 2 years on

 

[MaryClare]

She was rushed through the levels in order to rush her to Hopes and Elite. There's no foundation. I'm not saying you have to be a state champ at the compulsory levels in order to be a successful optional gymnast or elite, but her compulsory scores aren't impressive. Then she did a handful of level 7 meets in 2020. In 2021 she tested Hopes, did an in-house mobility meets to score through levels 8 and 9 (she scored out of those levels on the same day), capped off with a couple of level 10 meets in early 2022. She's been doing Hopes and elite exclusively since then.

She had the meet of her life at a qualifier in 2023 when she was competing Hopes, got the minimum qualification score for junior elite, and they had her do elite the rest of the year. Terrible choice, she should have remained at Hopes. She looked way out of her league the rest of the elite season and didn't come close to qualifying for nationals. But if you compete elite, you can never do Hopes again, so 2024 was one giant struggle and she didn't even get the elite qualifying score to compete at Classics.

She's been completely mishandled by RGA Minnesota (former gym) and Midwest (current gym), imo. Someone decided she was going to be elite when she was young and they were determined to make it happen, damn the consequences.

It’s a very strange scenario really, since both those gyms have produced some nice gymnasts

I am interested to see what she looks like now. I included her floor in a very, very boring seminar that I tried to make somewhat engaging by only using Sofia/Sophia as my examples

 

[RedBirdie]

There are two different RGAs. There's the one in New York that currently has Kieryn Finnell and Harlow Buddendeck. Then there's RGA in Minnesota, which I don't recall ever having elites. As far as I know, they're completely unrelated, they just both happen to be located to cities called Rochester. RGA Minnesota isn't a high level gym at all.

Why Midwest didn't slow things down when she switched gyms in 2021 is beyond me.