2024 US Olympic Trials MAG Day 1 (6/27)

[irichluck21]

My team is in shambles at this point

 

[arabiandoublefront]

My team is in shambles at this point

Who was your team?

 

[irichluck21]

Juda was 2nd on PH and 3rd on FX
Interesting.

Richard and Malone are locks. I would still take Young.

Wiskus making a statement.

Whittenburg out for me.

Neither Hoopes or Nedoroscik convinced me on PH.

Right now I have Malone, Richard, Young, Moldaeur, Juda but Wiskus giving some thought.

 

[KathySantoni]

Anyone come across full results?

 

[arabiandoublefront]

Anyone come across full results?

MyUSAGym

 

[tsarinajen]

 

[Hatsumomo]

I don't pay much attention to MAG, so is a 14.450 on PH a top 5 score worldwide? Because somebody who literally only does one event and hoping to take one of five spots in a 3-up 3-count TF format should be a Kaylia Nemour on the event, IMO.

 

[rlayt]

Nedoroscik had a subpar performance for him. He usually does more difficulty and he missed something.

I wonder if these were the same judges as Nationals? Both Asher and Whittenburg seemed to be scored higher tonight on the same vaults that were scored lower. The internet and writers debated about those scores a few weeks ago.

 

[Aeris]

Their vaults weren't scored any higher, Asher only went 14.35 and Donnell went 13.7 with a fall, which means they're giving him 14.6 if he did it with only a .1 step on landing (that's what he got at Nationals).

I don't pay much attention to MAG, so is a 14.450 on PH a top 5 score worldwide? Because somebody who literally only does one event and hoping to take one of five spots in a 3-up 3-count TF format should be a Kaylia Nemour on the event, IMO.

14.45 still adds a full point to the team score and that's the lowest score he's had all year. He went 15.4 multiple times this year. I sense he is very aware of the mathematical selection of the team and wanted to make sure not to have a fall. He already has a big lead after Nationals.

 

[KathySantoni]

I don't pay much attention to MAG, so is a 14.450 on PH a top 5 score worldwide? Because somebody who literally only does one event and hoping to take one of five spots in a 3-up 3-count TF format should be a Kaylia Nemour on the event, IMO.

Here are the scores that made it into the PH finals at worlds last year.

One thing to keep in mind is that if he is taken, it’s not for the individual medal potential but rather how he helps the Team. His score tonight tied for 1st with the other specialist. The next highest score from someone who is in the running was Paul Judas 14.0. That’s as much a testament to how perilous the event is as it is to his value that even with mistakes his score helps the Team. He had an issue on one of the nights at Nationals and still scored 14.8. That score could see him into the event final and is likely a point higher or so than what you might see from the next American up.

ETA: @Aeris brings up an interesting point. If he is keeping in mind the numbers game he did himself a huge favor tonight playing it conservatively considering how PH went. He’s probably looking mighty valuable with Khoi’s 11.6 from tonight.

 

[MrSixkiller]

That was just a big when it comes to team selection. I am still team PH specialist if it adds more than a point to the team total. This team is going to have 4 AA athletes with various strengths. There are enough options to have a 1 event athlete on the team. If they get to a point where they have exhausted options, a team medal isn’t likely anymore, go for broke.

 

[Puffin]

I don't pay much attention to MAG, so is a 14.450 on PH a top 5 score worldwide? Because somebody who literally only does one event and hoping to take one of five spots in a 3-up 3-count TF format should be a Kaylia Nemour on the event, IMO.

14.45 is a solid score - especially for a team like USA that is traditionally weak on PH - but I think that score would struggle to get into PH final

It probably adds 1+ point if all goes well but at the cost of limiting options if another team member gets injured

 

[Rich]

Do you guys not see Curran on the team?

 

[ewdot2480]

What a mess.

I still have Young on the Team for his experience, world medals, and big potential on several events.

I am leaning more towards Juda than Nedoroscik because Juda has proven to be quite decent on PH and he could add points on a couple other events that Nedoroscik would never be able to.

All that said, if Young doesn't perform well again ... I think Whiskus would/should take his spot as he seems very pumped, motivated, and getting good scores consistently lately; also has Olympic experience.

STILL, when plugging in the 3-up-3-down scenarios for the all-important Team medal possibility ... I see Malone, Richard, Khoi, Moldauer and Juda being the best option - with Nedoroscik being the wildcard because of his score "potential", but not adding anything elsewhere IF needed.

I know that Asher did well last night. But his Nationals perf was dismal, that Vault scares the heck out of me, and I don't see him adding much elsewhere other than Rings. Tough call, there.

Whittenburg did himself no favors last night. Colt Walker underperformed.

It was great fun seeing Curran Phillips lead after two rotations, but I just don't know if his 15.600 type scores (or even near 16) on PB will be good enough when several other guys can get over 15 there, anyway.

 

[makam]

Khoi also looked pretty taped up in the legs--is he dealing with some sort of injury?

 

[RedBirdie]

Patella tendonitis. Which is a real bitch and a half.

 

[ucrgirl]

Night one.

I assume this will be taken down soon.

 

[rlayt]

With all those predictions that his injury was career-ending it’s miraculous Brody is able to do this. But it scares me to watch him.

I really really want Khoi to improve a lot tomorrow. He’s so much better han he looked.

 

[OnoNoKomachi]

This one will be hard to predict because the third set of data points is so different from the first two.

There is a high probability that either Nedoroscik or Hoopes will be on the team, partly because Yul and Khoi aren't meeting their potential on that event.

That the team that won the bronze medal for the US was mostly all-arounders doesn't mean much.

Great Britain won an Olympic medal with Louis Smith doing just PH. The US won Olympic bronze with Sasha Artemev doing only PH (although that was a six person team, but he still only did one event out of 18).

I don't like concentrating all the risk on PH, but it could work out fine.

If the numbers point to this, the USA will pick that team.

I doubt Curran has a chance. Yul isn't scoring that much lower and he can do other events.

 

[RAFIKI]

I’m watching what I can of this before WAG starts. The knee graphic when talking about Malone’s injuries was one of the most informative things NBC has ever shown.