What if Mohini Bhardwaj retired before Athens?

[RAFIKI]

Thank you. I’d either forgotten or never seen that before. Lovely vault.

 

[makam]

OT: I live for the flame leo.

Don't love forward layout vaults. And I went "oomph" for her knees but that might just be the nature of the beast.

 

[rlayt]

The flame leo was a favorite of mine too. Designs are so fussy now.

 

[RedBirdie]

When Chelsie Memmel rocked up to 2021 nationals in a flame homage leo

 

[RAFIKI]

It was overused at the time but I loved Chellsie bringing it back.

 

[ArnoldRimmer]

Thank you. I’d either forgotten or never seen that before. Lovely vault.

I have a feeling there was no youtube footage of it for years.

 

[RichardL]

9.8/9.7 SV wouldn't have necessarily challenged for a medal, but she was usually very clean so who knows. She used the Tsuk full in 1997/2001 VT EFs at Worlds so she was clearly trying to give herself the best chance she could. Easily would've made finals with a hit DTY.

 

[irichluck21]

I’d either forgotten or never seen that before.

She didn't do it at Nationals or at Trials. It was not required to show two different vaults for the AA in that quad, once they did away with it after the 2001 Worlds. USA did two nights of AA and night 1 counted as event finals as well.

So just one vault at Nationals got you the vault gold. Tricase won in 2004 with a 9.525 for a DTY. She had a Pod for her second vault, but we only saw it once IIRC at the 2002 World Team Camp before she injured herself.. I always thought Tricase was capable of an Amanar. Had she not constantly gotten injured I think she would have had that vault quite easily.

At Olympic Trials, same thing, just one vault.

Bhardwaj showed the half on layout front off at selection camp.

So we didn't have footage of Bhardwaj doing the second vault previously AND NBC didn't show her second vault on their broadcast. BUT she had been on the start list for two vaults in TQ, since in 2004 you needed to show the 2nd vault to make vault finals.

Interestingly, Bhardwaj was invited to the 2005 American Cup to do VT as she still had a strong DTY and had upgraded her second vault to a RO, 1/2 on front full off. She was injured shortly before the meet and was replaced by Melanie Sinclair.

 

[Concorde]

So just one vault at Nationals got you the vault gold. Tricase won in 2004 with a 9.525 for a DTY. She had a Pod for her second vault, but we only saw it once IIRC at the 2002 World Team Camp before she injured herself.. I always thought Tricase was capable of an Amanar. Had she not constantly gotten injured I think she would have had that vault quite easily.

Tom Gardiner said that Tricase showed both a Podkopayeva and the 'Lopez' at the 2002 World Selection Camp.

 

[irichluck21]

I couldn't remember about the Lopez, but I remembered she had a Pod.
If she didn't get injured I do imagine she would have taken Humphrey's spot for VT/FX

 

[Denn]

Tom Gardiner said that Tricase showed both a Podkopayeva and the 'Lopez' at the 2002 World Selection Camp.

Those quotes are nefarious.

 

[RichardL]

I couldn't remember about the Lopez, but I remembered she had a Pod.
If she didn't get injured I do imagine she would have taken Humphrey's spot for VT/FX

So funny that Humphrey ended up almost winning the Olympic title on bars. The weirdest quad ever IMO. Thank god they started open-ended scoring after that nonsense.

 

[RAFIKI]

I always found it amusing that Humphrey did VT/FX at the 2002 individual worlds in Debrecen but UB/BB in the Athens TF.

 

[youwannacranson]

There was no Women's AA at the 2004 test event. They only ran one TF (WAG) and one AA (MAG) as a test run.

Look at the event schedule, then compare this video of the WAG TF medal ceremony with USAG's official report of the competition, where no TF result is listed.

I think USAG used this meet having next to zero coverage to give McCool a fake resume boost. Even finding scores was hard, but based on USAG's "AA results" (no single VT scores to be found) they just ranked everybody who actually did 4 events in QF

Her receiving 10.0 start values at this meet should also be taken with a major grain of salt. I was watching Australian gymnastics' home video of TF & EF where they show the score screens after the routines, and almost everybody was getting everything credited. It was kind of a joke of a meet (with one of the best beam finals of all time)

 

[MaryClare]

There was no Women's AA at the 2004 test event. They only ran one TF (WAG) and one AA (MAG) as a test run.

Look at the event schedule, then compare this video of the WAG TF medal ceremony with USAG's official report of the competition, where no TF result is listed.

I think USAG used this meet having next to zero coverage to give McCool a fake resume boost. Even finding scores was hard, but based on USAG's "AA results" (no single VT scores to be found) they just ranked everybody who actually did 4 events in QF

Her receiving 10.0 start values at this meet should also be taken with a major grain of salt. I was watching Australian gymnastics' home video of TF & EF where they show the score screens after the routines, and almost everybody was getting everything credited. It was kind of a joke of a meet (with one of the best beam finals of all time)

Thanks for this.

Team Russia on the podium L-R is Alexandra Shevchenko, Leysera Gabdrakhmanova, Natalia Ziganshina, Anna Pavlova, Maria Kryuchkova, Lyudmila Yezhova

 

[Lisaelaine80]

I always found it amusing that Humphrey did VT/FX at the 2002 individual worlds in Debrecen but UB/BB in the Athens TF.

I liked Teton on floor

 

[irichluck21]

There was no all around "final" but McCool did win the AA in qualifications.

 

[youwannacranson]

There was no all around "final" but McCool did win the AA in qualifications.

Which I said, but that still means next to nothing. There was no final, this meet was poorly attended and super early in an Olympic season, and even with the loose difficulty judging she was roughly 0.5 back from the best AAers (38+) at the Olympics

The US needing to fabricate this (and quotes on broadcasts such as "even the Russians were running up to Marta going 'you got another one!'") to give her a resume is really embarassing

 

[irichluck21]

They didn't need to fabricate anything for her resume.
She had plenty of other successes as well other than the test event.

I do agree that NBC trio was over the top and often made asinine comments.