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I like that NCAA gymnasts can change their minds about which well-resourced gym with access to medical and recovery services they want to go to. It’s pleasant.

Re: Josc, I don’t really think it’s an E/D score optimization decision as much as it is finding a coach who will not let her do things that are unsafe. She’s had three straight elite seasons of obviously dangerous landings and ankle issues. That’s got to stop. She can’t really do anything to change her scores if they can’t get that sorted.
 
I wish Jocelyn would go to LSU, Clemson, or Florida. Some place that could clean up her basics and improve her flexibility. My preference would be LSU because they have big gymnastics with clean form and beautiful flexibilty and Jay is an excellent bars coach. Clemson would be my second choice. The Howels raised the level of gymnastics at both Cal and Clemson by ruthless attention to basics.

I don't think UGA is the right fit. Her gymnastics remained sloppy when she trained at WCC. I think it would be difficult to forge the type of coaching relationship that would lead to improvements given their histoy.
 
I wish Jocelyn would go to LSU, Clemson, or Florida. Some place that could clean up her basics and improve her flexibility. My preference would be LSU because they have big gymnastics with clean form and beautiful flexibilty and Jay is an excellent bars coach. Clemson would be my second choice. The Howels raised the level of gymnastics at both Cal and Clemson by ruthless attention to basics.

I don't think UGA is the right fit. Her gymnastics remained sloppy when she trained at WCC. I think it would be difficult to forge the type of coaching relationship that would lead to improvements given their histoy.
It’s not a coaching issue. If joscelyn was doing just ncaa, cleaning up her form would be the main focus of any coach. But if she’s also training elite, that’s just not going to happen.
 
I also don't know that it's really possible to clean up her basics and improve her flexibility at this point. She is who she is. NETE gave her a terrible foundation, WCC didn't fix it.


I think she's an example of how some gyms push kids through the JO levels so that they can qualify elite. IIRC you don't even need to average more than high 8s in the elite compulsories.

I think if she gets an offer from one of the big teams - I doubt she will do vt or ub often in NCAA
 
I do think WCC did improve her basics and flexibility some. Her bars and shoulder angle are light years better. She had basically every muscle group and basic to work through though, to really improve it all.
 
I think she's an example of how some gyms push kids through the JO levels so that they can qualify elite. IIRC you don't even need to average more than high 8s in the elite compulsories.

I think if she gets an offer from one of the big teams - I doubt she will do vt or ub often in NCAA

Roberson in particular is why I hate the Hopes program. NETE pushed her (and Ella Kate Parker) into Hopes the second they were old enough. They never did levels 9 and 10, and barely did 8, iirc. Just had little kids, albeit talented, chuck as much difficulty as possible as young as possible in order to claim they're an elite gym.
 
I do think WCC did improve her basics and flexibility some. Her bars and shoulder angle are light years better. She had basically every muscle group and basic to work through though, to really improve it all.


They did improve her in the time she was there - I remember the Nationals where Laurent just took out her single bar ub release because she scored better even with the loss of 0.5 in CR than all the deductions and often a 1.0p fall when she attempted it.
 
Roberson in particular is why I hate the Hopes program. NETE pushed her (and Ella Kate Parker) into Hopes the second they were old enough. They never did levels 9 and 10, and barely did 8, iirc. Just had little kids, albeit talented, chuck as much difficulty as possible as young as possible in order to claim they're an elite gym.
That’s interesting. Putting Roberson’s actual gymnastics to one side, I wonder how much of a disadvantage it is that she never competed L10. When so many of the gymnasts she’s competing against have done so for multiple seasons prior to college.

She’s basically travelling back in time to compete 1992 optionals against gymnasts who’ve competed that COP since 1989 including compulsories.

I can’t wrap my head around some being that inflexible. Like how? It’s less flexibility than the average middle school cheerleader. I don’t think I’ve ever met a kid that inflexible. How does it even happen
 
Maybe this might explain why there are a lot gymnasts who never did elite who are better at NCAA gym than some elites. Roberson case in point but there are many others get outperformed by Level 10 gymnasts who did not trained elite. Plus their bodies are as beat up.
 

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