2025 World Championships: Women’s Qualifications Day 1 October 20/ Day 2 October 21

[Cartwheel_granny]

That was a really nice vault from Charlize Moertz right before Visser’s floor! Is she capable of throwing a more difficult vault? It sure looks upgradable.

I don‘t know about her but Schoenmeier supposedly has a Cheng that she might throw in event finals instead of the Lopez.

 

[Doug1233]

trying to cast the eurovision app onto my TV is giving me a stroke. and every time I try or restart it I have to rewatch all the fixing ads again. i’m often getting just audio and no video.

is anyone else struggling with it? I don’t know if they’ve put some kind of lock on it? it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t

 

[Amber]

trying to cast the eurovision app onto my TV is giving me a stroke. and every time I try or restart it I have to rewatch all the fixing ads again. i’m often getting just audio and no video.

is anyone else struggling with it? I don’t know if they’ve put some kind of lock on it? it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t

Worked fine for me all day

 

[navyblue]

This meet has me wanting to look at a manufacturer's schematic for the vaulting table.

When I was vaulting on the table it didn't appear to me that it had 'springs' per se, more than its hollowness and a bit of resulting flex gave it some built-in propulsion, akin to level you get on a balance beam.

Just watching the video from this meet, the vault and beam look like stone solid pieces of equipment....

 

[barbara_dewey]

Just a 13 for Josc.

She's lucky to have gotten that much.

 

[Aeris]

Melnikova's Cheng has:

Entry: .3 leg sep, .1 bent leg, .1 alignment
Air: .1 leg sep, .1 bent leg, .1 flex feet, .1 height, .1 distance, .3 pike
Landing: .1 chest position (but it looks worse than a .1 - there should objectively also be a deduction for the arms being totally askew), .1 offline, .1 step

And yet she scored 8.866 instead of 8.4E. So tired of her always being overscored and bad executions of this vault usually being overscored in general.

Hopefully by some miracle Deng Yalan will get her deserved title. It will probably take a .3 step and .3 out of bounds on Melnikova's Cheng for that to happen with the way this judging is going.

 

[eanda]

Top 5 execution on each event

Beam:
1. Savaiva, 8.333
2. Finnegan, 7.933
3. Zhang, 7.866
4. McDonald, 7.833
5t. A. Yap, 7.800
5t. Trtnik, 7.800

I've just watched Saraiva, Finnegan, Zhang, and Yap. That any of these could be worked down to these scores is a big problem in what the code has become and and great example of why I will continue to say there is a place for a .05 deduction.

By comparison, Voinea had a 7.633 for a routine which really did not compare to these. To be fair, in my ideal code, her score would also be low for what was actually done. But the lack of separation between Voinea and the others, and what must incude some incredible nitpicking at small details to bring the first four routines down this low is really a problem and just moves to killing the sport.

Saraiva


Finnegan


Zhang


Yap


Voinea

 

[onodian]

Aiko is doing too much face on FX. It’s annoying

Sounds like we're giving a WRONG FACE deduction after all

 

[onodian]

You could have fallen asleep and given the top 15 all a 7.7 E and you’d have been in line.

yes but do notice Petisco is 1st on E-score, not in the least because of her precise and clean choreo.

that's your DIRT to eat you UK scum

But, seriously, so lovely to be in touch again.

 

[Caligym]

I've just watched Saraiva, Finnegan, Zhang, and Yap. That any of these could be worked down to these scores is a big problem in what the code has become and and great example of why I will continue to say there is a place for a .05 deduction.

By comparison, Voinea had a 7.633 for a routine which really did not compare to these. To be fair, in my ideal code, her score would also be low for what was actually done. But the lack of separation between Voinea and the others, and what must incude some incredible nitpicking at small details to bring the first four routines down this low is really a problem and just moves to killing the sport.

Saraiva


Finnegan


Zhang


Yap


Voinea

Just watched Voinea and Yap’s routines. That there is only 0.167 separating their E scores is insane. I think if you told me the decimal point was misplaced and there was actually 1.67 separating them…Voinea a 7.1 and Yap an 8.7…I would have been less shocked.

 

[onodian]

This is hardly a surprise though, it's been a problem since the start of the open-ended code.

8.8 turned into 8.3 turned into 7.7, doesn't matter. There is not enough difference between clean and chucked.

 

[eanda]

This is hardly a surprise though, it's been a problem since the start of the open-ended code.

8.8 turned into 8.3 turned into 7.7, doesn't matter. There is not enough difference between clean and chucked.

Oh, I know - I've been on this campaign for 19 years! But after being away from the sport for a while and missing out on the 8.3 years, it just jumps out at me so much more.

But It's not just about the missing .05 deduction. I feel like the CoP has also become more and more ridiculous in some of the expectations for element execution. Like, are we really very far from specific finger positions during the prescribed head-release part of a ring leap?

 

[MaryClare]

This is hardly a surprise though, it's been a problem since the start of the open-ended code.

8.8 turned into 8.3 turned into 7.7, doesn't matter. There is not enough difference between clean and chucked.

With the advancement of AI, I would like to see the FIG release videos of what a 9+ e score would look like in an elite level floor/beam routine

 

[Denn]

A far cry from 8.8!

Gosh, I barely remember those days when 8.8 was the standard score for a hit routine.

 

[Denn]

With the advancement of AI, I would like to see the FIG release videos of what a 9+ e score would look like in an elite level floor/beam routine

I want them to do it, too — but only because it will help me make my point that they are treating gymnasts like computers, not human beings.

The idea that ultra-precise execution is artistic was NEVER the point of gymnastics until somewhere around 2013-ish. And it's gotten worse and worse in the past 3 quads.

Meanwhile, NOTHING is awarded for creativity or style on vault, bars, or beam. NOTHING.

 

[Doug1233]

abigail martin had a weird baulk on vault #2. looked like twisties. she went one way and then back the other.

 

[Doug1233]

rejudjng the US beams I now see why skye’s e was so low.

 

[Peridot]

She seems like a sweet young woman and great for team morale, but her gymnastics leaves a LOT to be desired. And honestly, downright dangerous. She already brushed against a career-ending injury previously. She doesn't have the Skinner/Raisman brickhouse build.

Hard agree. She comes over very well in interviews etc and seems lovely but I cannot watch her gymnastics without cringing

 

[RedBirdie]

Voinea is the new Raisman. So much difficulty, so many small deductions everywhere the judges can't possibly notate and take them all.

 

[Doug1233]

I don’t think they credited Leanne’s switch ring on floor. there’s no other way I can get it to 5.3. her triple wolf and switch half looked ok to me.