I remember Mostepanova's birthday moving around a fair bit - not just the year but the month as well - I'm pretty sure that at one time her birthday was December 31st ..... not suspicious at all :rolleyes:
In fact IIRC there were several rather young looking gymnasts that had late December...
I saw Olga Mostepanova at the 1980 Coca Cola International - where she must had been only 11!
Also if people are saying Olga Bicherova was only 12 at 1981 Worlds baby Bicherova must have been only 9 or 10 at 1979 Moscow News - although she gave her back a nasty jolt on ub.
Silivas wasn't age eligible for the gold she won at 1985 worlds because she was only 13 - the Romanians changed her birth year from 1972 to 1970 and issued her a new passport.
If they break up the team - who is going to qualify Romania to the 2028 Olympics?
Or are they going to play qualification hunger games like they did in 2016?
It perfectly sums up the Romanian attitude to gymnastics - chucks triple backs, but can't do a giant.
At least Dominique had the excuse of being 9 - but we are seeing the same with the current Sabrina/Camelia scenario that she chucks all sorts of really big skills - but I don't think I ever saw...
What is the status of the Romanians training NCAA in the US? Have they retired? Or will they become the team in exile (like various governments in WWII)?
Absolutely - and it almost becomes part of the culture that athlete abuse is the only way to produce "winners". The Karolyi methods became the template for "successful" gym programs.
We've seen this recently on the board with the summaries of gymnast biographies that abuse was simply normalised...
It's really, really sad that the internal coaching culture in Romania has not really moved on in the 20 years since 11 year old Adriana Giurca was beaten to death by her coach Florian Gheorghe
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Did this happen at Euros? You were definitely allowed to withdraw the team.
The Romanian's withdrew from MTF - only qualified 15th of 16 teams but withdrawing didn't prevent Barbosu competing in AA and taking 🥉or EF and wining 🥇floor 🥈 beam and 🥉 bars in EF.
What is does stop countries doing...
Well Mostepanova didn't get the opportunity as the Soviets withdrew her with an "injury" to get Shushunova into AA
But Mostepanova could well have medalled - she qualified
3rd AA
=1st UB
.... but didn't get to compete
However Yurchenko and Szabo were not on their best form